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Permalink Reply by Eric Hamwey on September 5, 2012 at 10:24pm

feel the M in michael is more than accurate. Not to mention the h.....i feel the h has the correct space before the arch........

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on September 6, 2012 at 12:00am

I don´t like it.

Looks drawn...no flow.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Hamwey on September 6, 2012 at 12:25am

I beg to differ, the is c & h in "michael" in this PSA example are identical to my photograph. the c is almost mistaken for an i.....a short c if u will. also notice the way the h's have a space before it arches up..... The M differs a but i've seen plenty JSA samples like it.  Michael always signed tradition 8x10's on the lightest portion of the photo, and to the bottom right of the image......As u see in mine. also pay close attention to the second hump in the “M.” It is almost always the same height or slightly higher than the “N” in Jackson as my photo clearly illustrates.......plus this was purchased from Grand stand sports located in New york....... can u please give me more feedback on any inconsistency's . thanx Eric.....

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on September 6, 2012 at 1:09am

Not really, because I´m no expert.

But the sig on the pickguard (I assume that PSA got it right) looks way more fluent and "natural" to me. The sig on the photo looks slowly written and "drawn".

Plus the bow of the "l" in Michael usually ends between the "M" and the "J"...like on the pickguard.

And I´ve never seen an "a" in his last name like the one on the photo. Looks very dubious to me.

Plus...it really doesn´t matter where and from who you bought it from. Many charity auctions sell a lot of questionable stuff.

Again...I´m no expert but a collector...

Cheers

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 6, 2012 at 5:34am

I don't think the two signatures in question are alike at all. I am more comfortable with the inconsistant baseline as shown on the pickguard, than I am with the one in the photo.  

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Permalink Reply by Eric Hamwey on September 6, 2012 at 11:26am

I never thought i would be stooped into buying a fake but after reading your comments i think i'm ready to take the foot out my mouth and send this in to PAAS......if u can take a look at the signature after the h.....i think i see signs of a trace.....it almost looks like the forger stopped and started signing again......unless u think this is normal for a MJ sig.....please everybody let me know your input........

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on September 6, 2012 at 7:05am

What charity event did you get it at? Cause that dont look good. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Hamwey on September 6, 2012 at 10:26am

Grand stand sports........

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Permalink Reply by Eric Hamwey on September 6, 2012 at 12:08pm

please oh please more forum feedback.........

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Permalink Reply by Paul Fox on September 6, 2012 at 3:50pm

In my opinion after comparing the PSA certified to the charity auction one you have and judging that we all agree the  PSA is legit,

The charity piece has alot of errors and inconsistencies in comparison.

The angles of the strokes to which the signature is completely different to the PSA. There is an ink pool at the bottom of the" M "where the "forger" has stop to take a look to see if its similar to something they are trying to copy.

if it was a genuine signature, there would have been a fade at the bottom of the M and not an ink pool.

on the PSA, the "I" is bigger than the "c", but in the charity one the "C" is twice the size of the "I".

The "H" stands out far too much, the loop on the PSA is more of a circular motion  and large where as the charity one is a straight up and straight down loop stroke and some what small and should match the height of the final "L" loop like on the PSA example.

The "J" is obviously different and incomplete on the PSA version as the signature came off of the object. But is still very different and does not match the strokes of the PSA piece.

the rest of the the charity piece , is pretty poor, is just a wavey line. and one too many waves.

Now to finish of the comparison, the end of the charity autograph  does not have a fade, you can see where they have stopped and added to it trying to get the angle of the finish of the jackson signature. It also does not match the height of the "L" in michael , and "J" in jackson to which it should.

in my opinion the charity one is not authentic. I would not put my name on a CoA for it, someone has had a good try in copying his signature but has came up short and left a massive trail of errors. This is not a fluid signature and does not have a constant flow.

Hope this helps

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