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PSA and JSA forgeries? Have you seen any you feel they possibly made a mistake on?

I'm not sure about you guys but I've seen a few in my years of searching ebay. What about you? Have you ever seen an autograph that was authenticated by a major authenticator ( EXCLUDING GAI ) that you thought was in fact a forgery?

If you have, please post scans if you have them available. I know when it comes to authentication it is hard to beat JSA or PSA but I have read stories about some errors made by the companies. The infamous Sal Bando incident is one that comes to mind http://rant.sportslizard.com/2007/12/01/jsa-authenticator-busted-on...

There are other examples very similar where JSA and PSA were at a show where an athlete was signing and someone swapped the real ball they had signed with a forgery they did before the show and the authenticator gave it the stamp of approval. The Pete Rose incident is another example of where JSA assumed because Pete Rose was signing autographs at the show they were authenticating at, that every person who put a Pete Rose autograph in front of them must have the real thing.

Here is another link that shows where a forgery may have slipped through the cracks. http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=10958

They ( PSA and JSA ) have authenticated printed signatures in books as authentic and have even authenticated a real signature of Kato Kaelin signature as being signed by Kate Hudson.

I am new here and certainly not here to cause a fuss, I am just curious as to what you guys think the % of fakes that do slip through the PSA or JSA cracks. I think we can all be wise enough to admit that forgeries do get through. There is no way they can be 100% all of the time.

I value their opinion but after looking at a Mantle that they authenticated ( It looks traced ) , I question just how good they truly are. I had a Derrick Rose autograph that failed their authentication, but in fact...It was obtained in person BY ME at a Bulls vs Bobcats game.

I saw a youtube test video where a guy forged a Bob Feller autograph on camera and sent it in to PSA and it come back slabbed. I just wonder if they are all they claim to be

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on July 30, 2013 at 9:24am

With Epperson authenticating music signatures for JSA, I would certainly think the stats are better than a coin flip.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 30, 2013 at 7:45am

Fake PSA coa on a Jeter forgery. ebay seller reverseboomerang

http://myworld.ebay.com/reverseboomerang/

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on July 30, 2013 at 10:58am

In my experience, JSA is TERRIBLE at authenticating hockey autographs, like I'd value a JSA autographed hockey item just above a fake. However, in regards to other sports they're really good in my opinion. No idea about music/movie memorabilia though.

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Permalink Reply by JXE on July 30, 2013 at 11:30am

It sounds like these companies are better off saying they're unable to render an opinion instead of ruining their reputation on an item out of their earea of expertise with a sticker of theirs on it. Maybe that's why Roger Epperson has such a high success rate... because he only accepts submissions on a field he's very farmiliar with. Phil Sears only does Disney and he's the best there is on him.

If PSA or JSA aren't sure, they shouldn't sticker... just say it's out of their area of expertise.

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Permalink Reply by Charles O'Brailey on July 30, 2013 at 11:56am

JXE I agree with you 100%. I know they are in business to make money and as i've said before they do a fairly good job. I just think that sometimes they go overboard especially when authenticating for a dealer. I've seen a ton of autographs that dealers sent and JSA pretty much just rubber stamps them.

I'll put it like this. I'd rather post a picture of an autograph on this website and ask you guys your opinions. I feel like I could put more stock in what you all say than what they say over at JSA or PSA. I know they have helped the hobby, but when you have a dealer sending you 1000 photographs to authenticate, it is a serious conflict of interest because if you deny some of them.......DON'T LOOK FOR ANY FUTURE BUSINESS FROM THAT DEALER.