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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on April 20, 2014 at 11:12am

Elton looks good.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on April 20, 2014 at 12:01pm

I checked out the pink floyd and in particular the Gilmour. This is really beyond my skill to say if its good or bad, but something about the Gilmour formation strikes me as odd.  But im sure you will get some great opinions Don. The Gilmour just looks a little strange to me, but could very well be authentic.

That also is a very neat signature from Angus, if its real. Typically he is much sloppier, especially nowadays. Also, does the seller have a story on when these items were signed? I just wonder b/c they are all on the exact same type of paper. This could of course easily be explained, but it always strikes me as odd if a seller has many signed pieces from different eras, all on the exact same type of plain paper. I of course dont know the story on these, nor is the same type of paper any type of indicator of authenticity. Its just something i pay attention too, if a seller says they got the signatures over a time span.

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on April 21, 2014 at 8:15am

Thanks for helping!

I looked a little more at the seller of the indexcards and it might be a classic case of "if it looks to good to be true, it probably is"...

The seller says that he has "collected them myself" and that "many were obtained in-person" as you can see here: 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321383554280?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&a...

When looking at his feedback he has sold A LOT of high class autographs for very low prices. It is always very fine examples and often a nice inscription too. Not just a rushed signature like what most in-person collectors usually gets!

For example, he has sold:

- Freddie Mercury for £75: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58697&am...

- Britney Spears for £5,50

- Axl Rose for £7

- Gene Simmons for £9

- Angus Young and Brian Johnson for £12

- Simon and Garfunkel for £9

- Fully signed U2 album for £24

and on and on it goes...

Please have a look and let me know what you think!

// Don

PS. Sorry for starting 2 different threads about this seller autographs. But I could only upload 3 pictures in each thread yesterday, when using my iphone...

Here´s the other autographs from this seller: http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/ronnie-wood-the-edge...

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on April 22, 2014 at 9:21am

Anyone else who has an opinion on these? The auctions ends soon, so I would appreciate your help!

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on April 22, 2014 at 10:10am

At those past realized prices Don, i think its a pretty safe bet that there is something way off here. My personal opinion would be to avoid, there are just to many red flags to me. And those past realized prices are a joke compared to what they should easily realize. I mean an Axl Rose for like 14 bucks USA, and a fully signed U2 album for like 45 bucks?? There is something definetly off. Even on ebay, such items, if authentic would be causing a frenzy of bidding.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on April 22, 2014 at 10:20am

I just looked through his sold items and past member ID history Don. And it even furthers my suspicions. Every item he has sold is basically a picture perfect autograph, and most with a doodle, catch phrase, or quote next to the graph. And a great number of them all appear to have been signed with the same pen. I suppose its possible this guy toted all these cards around with him and the same pen, but i doubt it. Also, how would this individual get all these hard to get celebs, to make drawings and catch phrases?? It is just extremely unlikely. And most of them have the "With best wishes" next to them. How did he get so many celebs to write that inscription. Did he ask for it?? B/c thats about the only way he could get so many to write that. And that would be extremely odd to ask someone to personalize it, in that manner.

But the autographs, in my opinion, at least on the ones i looked at, are far better than average forgeries. Such as his past Led Zepp signatures, etc. My personal opinion is that somehow there is either tracing going on, or possibly an autopen, or something along those lines. But i do not think that they are genuine autographs signed by the actual celebrity. There are just to many red flags, and the small prices realized are very telling. He could easily consign those to an auction house, if real, and make a ton of money, even after commission. Just my 2 cents though. There is something going on there in my opinion, and it has the potential to fool ALOT of people.

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Permalink Reply by Micko on April 22, 2014 at 10:23am

The Roger Waters looks off to me and that Angus sketch is all over the web. I also looked at the Van Halen and the Eddie isn't bad, but still a little off. I would be extremely wary and the fact they are all on the same type of paper, no variation, makes me worry. I don't know, there is nothing about this seller that gives me confidence. Just my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on April 22, 2014 at 10:51am

Thanks Carl and Micko!

You're right. And as I said (and you too Carl) in a previous reply, almost every signature is in perfect condition with often a very nice inscription added. Not exactly what the ordinary in-person collector normally gets...

I agree, something is fishy here!

But the scary part is, if these are fakes which we think, they are really good ones and will fool a lot of people!

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Permalink Reply by Micko on April 22, 2014 at 3:51pm

You are quite right Don, they are good fakes, which makes it even more worrying.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on April 22, 2014 at 11:54am

These are all fake, the Elton is terrible,

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Permalink Reply by Bjarne Soderholm on April 22, 2014 at 5:02pm

I have been collecting music autographs for a long time and have seen a lot of autographs from these people and when you compare these autographs with their genuine autographs, you will see that these are just decent attempts of the genuine autographs. All of them are off in one or other way. But for the general public this will look like a goldmine.

Stay away and save your money for the real autographs.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on April 22, 2014 at 6:12pm

Gallery of ink yeah right ,probably an ex art student knocking out forgeries.

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