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Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on February 24, 2015 at 6:02pm

eBay make millions off sellers including this one and do not care. Press Pass get every item authenticated regardless of whether it's real or not.

eBay, PSA and JSA should all face action but make money so turn a blind eye

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Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on February 24, 2015 at 6:38pm

because he does not care, he knows about it, he just doesn't care at all. As long as PSA or JSA sticker is on he could care less.

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on February 24, 2015 at 6:52pm

What PSA doesn't sticker JSA will.. bit of a joke really.  Probably raking in tons.  He also buys up all the authentic PSA stuff on ebay and relists it for double the price.

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on February 24, 2015 at 6:59pm

I am not sure if they are knowingly selling fakes, although that has been implied before by some on this site. Without knowing anything about the seller, it could just be that they have on occasion purchased inventory from a dishonest source. They have over 20 thousand items listed currently, so even dozens out of that number is not that much.

I can, for the most part, only comment on the music items, but I think most are real. Then there are those that I think are not good, but I don't recall seeing any amateurish forgeries. So mainly I would point my finger at PSA/DNA for not failing the items that they would for regular customers. I seem to recall many of the sketchier items being mostly certed by JSA actually, so maybe PSA has failed some items if only for appearances' sake.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 25, 2015 at 7:36am

They know. Many of their forgeries are very good. But hey, they have stickers on them so 80-90% of the collecting community won't care about the autograph.

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on February 25, 2015 at 10:34am

So, are they producing the forgeries in-house or knowingly purchasing them from somewhere else? And if so, is it one source or multiple ones (ie. is the style of the forgeries constant)?

Also, have these types of forgeries been spotted being sold by any of the other big time dealers? Just seems like a huge risk, even with the rubber stamps. If anyone has any info, please share.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin C on February 25, 2015 at 11:19am

While there are certainly some mistakes that are going to be made by PSA/DNA and JSA, they are right way more often then they are wrong. Are they perfect? Not even close. Do some dealers get better treatment? I'm sure they do. That being said, I think on the sports side I trust PSA/JSA a lot, again not 100%, but they are right on the majority of the big names, in terms of entertainment, I wouldn't touch an autograph that I didn't obtain, half the sigs are no more than squally lines anyways.

I also look at volume of autographs on a particular individual from a seller. If someone is selling 100s of the same artist/player, and they don't have a signing they conducted to prove it, that's a red flag for me.

Just use common sense, know the auto your buying and steer clear of any thing suspect.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 25, 2015 at 12:18pm

This thread is asking about a seller of Beatles, MJ, Rolling Stones...etc. PSA/DNA and JSA are not right far more often than they are wrong. On music and entertainment items like those being asked about here they are no better than a coin flip. I don't blame dealers a bit for scoffing at their authenticating opinions.

Sports items such as Mantle, DiMaggio, Ali and such they are very good. New up and coming players particularly in baseball they are not nearly as tuned in. There are advanced collectors and in person hounds who have better opinions.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin C on February 25, 2015 at 1:56pm

Which is why I said I wouldn't touch them on the entertainment side. especially with how bad most entertainment sigs are, who truly knows and can come to a conclusive decision.

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Permalink Reply by josh on February 24, 2015 at 8:17pm

how much of the stuff is fake...did you guys keep track??

it's unreal the amount of  stuff they have.

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Permalink Reply by Benjamin Marik on February 25, 2015 at 3:42pm

I specialize in entertainment items, actors for movies and especially american television.  I can say that presspasscollectibles has many forgeries in their inventory.  They also have many authentic autographs in my opinion.  Its a mix of both.  When I first seen their items, I couldn't believe that psa or jsa would authenticate some of that stuff.  To me, you just can't authenticate a line and a dot rushed signature unless you personally witnessed that signature being signed.   It's a buyer beware market out there.  Part of why I decided to study entertainment autographs was because there seems to be more forgeries authenticated by big companies.  Mistakes are expected but with all the well known complaints about this seller which are available to see online, you would think psa or jsa would catch on.  This doesn't make sense?

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 25, 2015 at 9:13pm

I'm sure PSA knows. These folks probably one if their top 5 customers. They are in business to make money not chase big accounts to their competitors.

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