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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 8, 2016 at 6:13pm

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I said "k" and "kie" - yes, the "c"! Terrier is correct - and I can spell, believe me ;). The "kie" here appears uniform compared to any of the authentics.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on February 8, 2016 at 6:15pm

Thanks Terrier.  I've seen many of these certed by TPAs.  Hopefully they are removed from the market eventually.  

The "ck" you mention does indeed stand out in the authentic examples.  The secretarial signatures' "k" look more like an "h" in formation.  Thanks for the tip!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 8, 2016 at 6:19pm

Hi Mike,

Yes, re "ck", and when the form of the "kie" is so uniform, like repeats almost of the same shape, and the "k" lacks a back-hook, you are dealing with a secretarial. Another thing is the two "a's" - the second "a" should lay down compared to the first and have a different construction.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Steve on February 9, 2016 at 3:52pm

I have been looking for an nice authentic (obviously) Gleason on a photo for over 5 years and have yet to come across one. Very, very difficult.

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on February 10, 2016 at 9:18pm

A simple signed index card/page is difficult as well!

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on February 10, 2016 at 9:16pm

Here is another example:

Has the "a" characteristics mentioned 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 10, 2016 at 11:15pm

That is fine - nice example in fountain C. 1955-60 perhaps earlier. His signature did not really change all that much. I am dating to the later '50's as the "eason" has simplified and "j' and "g" have relaxed a bit.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 11, 2016 at 12:14am

Hi again,

The "g" is also quite a bit to the right which also makes me think 1950's/slightly later. That the "j" and "a" and not connected pushes it forward some also - perhaps to 1960. Hard to say - light impression (on me and the paper). The usual density of ink at the middle of the last name, in the "as" is also not present, pushing it forward again. Nice example.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on February 11, 2016 at 7:16pm

Thanks Eric! I'll add that to my authentic exemplar file

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 12, 2016 at 11:06am

Oh I thought you had bought it!

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on February 12, 2016 at 12:43pm

At the time I didnt, but I just bought it! What is the going rate you think for that signature? I think I got a really good deal on it.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 12, 2016 at 12:59pm

Hi Mike,

 I am so happy you got it! I's wonderful! It has been said such an example is about $125-$150 or so retail. I have paid a nice premium for an example dated with 30 days of the first episode of the Honeymooners.

Congratulations!

Eric

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