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The JSA cert says the whole questionaire was filled out by Sinatra but doesn't it look like the notary public who also signed  filled in the answers?  (Same handwriting)  The actual Sinatra signature looks different (and probably authentic)

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The signature on the bottom is Sinatra's. The rest of the handwriting appears to be in the hand of the Notary Public.

That's what I thought.  Although the JSA cert says "the handwriting was penned in the hand of Frank Sinatra" 

Really sloppy work by them to get this so wrong -- a child can see it's not Sinatra's handwriting. 

It's also very easy to see that the form has been filled out by the Notary Public. Just compare the "M"s and "N"s, etc.

JSA continues to do sloppy work.  It will end up costing them as collectors continue to discount their credibility.

The certificate states that they are giving an opinion on the signature, not the handwriting around it.  It clearly states that: "The Signature is consistent..." and right below that, "The handwriting was penned by the hand of Frank Sinatra," referring to the signature, which they consider to be "genuine."  JSA authenticates autographs.

You're letting JSA off the hook too easily Appleton as they also authenticate not JUST autographs but handwritten letters, documents, questionaires, etc.  If they were JUST authenticating the autograph they would not have added "The HANDWRITING was penned by the hand of Frank Sinatra"   I have several JSA certs where they state that other writing on the same page has been written by someone else.  They blew this one. 

I just heard back from JSA on this: they stated:

We stand behind the signature however all additional handwriting was penned in an unknown hand. Please contact us directly if you have any further questions.

You paid for the certificate.  If you don't like the wording of it and aren't happy with it, I don't think it's unreasonable for you to request they print you a new one with the word signature instead of handwriting.  It's just a piece of paper.

I agree the COA wording is a bit misleading or confusing.

But their latest reply does make a clearer distinction between the sig and handwriting.

Appleton has a good point to request a new cert w/ better defined wording.

In conclusion, JSA did not make an analysis mistake... 

Here is my take on this. The Sinatra signature is clearly authentic. The JSA certificate is not necessary and I don't think the lack of clarity has any affect of the value of the piece. It's just a nice companion to the piece. For those who "demand" one of those TPA certificates, this will fit the bill. For the rest of us, the signature speaks for itself.

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