Authenticity is Everything
ARE THESE STAMPED/PRINTED/AUTOPEN BEATLES SIGNATURES
On a "Long Tall Sally" EP. Sigs look too good to be true.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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I wonder which is more likely?
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Permalink Reply by Jason H on
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I've never spent the time researching beatles signatures to nowhere near the extent a lot of you have to be much help, they've just never been on my radar. However, isnt it odd to have the same even pressure throughout all 4 signatures, just missing the shakiness and dot for some endings? That even pressure in the body of all 4 signatures makes me question possible autopen use
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You are seeing what I am seeing. They look oddly uniform.
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Permalink Reply by JDZelenka on
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These look like 1965 signatures of the Beatles - I suspect that they have been printed onto the record cover and were originally on an autograph album page (hence the grouping)
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I don't know about that. Once they are digitized I would think you could alter the placement at will, or anything else.
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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on
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I checked my exemplar file and didn’t find a matching set.
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on
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Here is a photo of the entire back of the 45. It's unusual to have all four sign sideways on any item. The signatures have been done or placed to maximize the amount of clean "white space" to make them stand out from the print. Anyone have such an example in their exemplar file where they have done this? I don't.
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Now they look really unusual.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Saunders on
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I agree.
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Permalink Reply by fab432 on
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Yes I also agree that the placement is so tight and awkward on the back of the Ep that I find it hard to believe that it was signed - placed seems like a more feasible reality. When you look at all the other genuine examples of signed Lp or Ep jackets you won’t find one with signatures with a similar placement. Authenticating autographs in today’s world has become or will soon become exceptionally difficult to do with any kind of accuracy (IMO).
Techniques that enable forgers to copy and transfer genuine autographs onto new old items with live ink will become the norm.
A potential saving grace will be from members of forums such as this who have exemplars of the stolen autographs who can illustrate where these fakes originated from. It won’t only be down to do the signatures look good, it will be where are the signatures placed, the pressure points or lack there of and of course the provenance.
I would expect an original set of autographs this clean to have impeccable provenance. They are simply too good to be genuine and most likely forged.
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