Authenticity is Everything
Are these The Fierce Five 2012 USA Olympics e.g. McKayla, Aly, etc. real?
This framed photo is described as authentic autographs signed over reprints, the way I understand from the listing. What do you think? Are the authentic versions real? Thanks for your analysis! (This is the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/283732817118?itmmeta=01JKAS3EX9ZPVDTKNMFQ0...)
Tags: 2012, Aly, Douglas, Ebay, Fierce, Five, Gabby, Jordyn, Maroney, McKayla, More…
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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They look close but I don't know their autographs. Go to Beckett-Authentication.com and pay $10 for a signature review. What they say on those will likely be accurate.
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Permalink Reply by Al To Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Hi Steve,
I just submitted the listing and image to Beckett online. Thanks for that resource, I totally forgot about that option, even though I created an account long time ago.
As an aside, I usually use PSA/DNA quick. onion.
What do you think of one vs. the other in terms of credbibility and reliability, Steve?
Thanks,
Al
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Just saw my typo, I meant PSA/DNA quick opinion, not onion LOL.
Others who may be knowledgeable, please share your thoughts as well. Beckett-authentication online vs PSA/DNA quick opinion?
Much appreciated!
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Permalink Reply by eddy To Al on
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PSA....Professional SPORTS Authentication. If I was to use one or the other, probably them. Not big on Beckett but that's just based upon personal experience and what I've witnessed with the experiences of other collectors.
I don't know these signatures but a couple of thoughts on the listing itself. This account may be a pawn shop or something similar. They are not autograph dealers at all if you look at their listings. This photo is even identified as being located behind the desk in the store (maybe next to the Snap-On tools and Motorola walkie talkies found amongst the other listings 😊.) Nothing wrong with this as sometimes treasures can be found in one-off listings. But just be aware of the source and how there might be a potential dispute if you get it and are not pleased. You only have a 48 hour window upon reception to make sure that everything is okay (according to the listing). On the plus side, this online shop has 100% feedback!
Also, under if it has been authenticated, the seller simply says "Obviously Authentic, see pictures". If it's "Obviously Authentic" in the seller's mind.........
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Great insights Eddy. Makes sense, PSA for sports, Beckett for everything else.
And the context of the seller’s background and validity is questionable.
Thanks!
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Permalink Reply by JK on
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Assuming the gold signatures are the preprints, I don't see an ink signature for Kyla Ross on the left, and I see three extra signatures along the bottom.
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I only reviewed the ones signed over 4 reprints since that's what he asked about.
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So according to the listing,
4 Players Ally Raisman, McKayla Maroney, Jordyn Weber & Gabby Douglas Personally Autographed In Black Marker ("authentic")
Poster Has Pictures Of The Five Players With Their Autographs In Gold On Poster (reprints)
4 Additional Autographs On Poster (reprints).
I know, it sounds confusing!
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I contacted the seller, who said this:
4 authentic signatures:
Ally Raisman
McKayla Maroney
Jordyn Wieber
Gabby Douglas
There are 3 additional signatures at the bottom.
The one on the left I believe is from the Head coach John Geddert. Not sure who the other 2 are but probably 2 other coaches
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Some random thoughts...
If someone was going to forge the signatures I'd think they would have done the full set instead of just four.
The varied placement of the ink signatures strongly suggests different signers.
The addition of the extra three unknown signatures is not something I'd expect to see on a forgery.
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