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Babe Ruth Cut Autograph Forgery Ebay Seller Original3745786 Rare And Signed COA

Check out this ugly Babe Ruth forgery (cut autograph) on Ebay.

This ugly Babe Ruth cut autograph (forgery) is listed by Ebay seller Original3745786 and the COA is from Rare and Signed who is on Ebay's Banned COA list.

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on May 26, 2013 at 7:40am
This blog stuff is for homosexuals and women? Michael, I assume you're a stupid and hateful man who didn't get enough attention as a child. Your stupidity is literally mind boggling, considering you're attacking people while you misspell every other word on your comments. I hope we never meet face to face. For your benefit, hope you and I never meet. I don't much care for people who hate people for who they are. Try spelling correctly and not using all caps before trying to stick it to someone online.
Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on May 26, 2013 at 7:53am

" Who is Frost" ?

You honestly had me fooled , I did believe you were not aware of your mistake. I thought I was helping you when I personally informed you of the issues with the 1st Babe Ruth signature. You wrote me back thanking me and letting me know that you were going to stop the auction and asking me to look at the 2nd Babe Ruth.  You were not being truthful and then you go and list a 2nd Babe Ruth signature on ebay that is also not Likely Authentic. I must now have to say that you are now knowingly selling questionable autographs. If you wish to have the signatures authenticated contact PSA/DNA or JSA.  I am offering you free authentication with P.A.A.S. to you on the Babe Ruth signatures. I can assure you if authenticated as authentic Babe Ruth signatures you would have no problem receiving $1500 - $3000++ each..

Thank you
Michael Frost
P.A.A.S.
Permalink Reply by CJCollector on May 26, 2013 at 8:18am

Mr. Medina, do know why we do what we do here?

We do it because we are sick and tired of the forgeries (especially on Ebay!!!) that have infected the hobby.  Personally, I've been exposing forgeries in the hobby for close to a decade.  We are sick and tired of it.

You comment about your 100% feedback.  Your 100% feedback means zero when it comes to autographs.  I've exposed hundreds of sellers with a 100% feedback rating who sold 100% forgeries.  Ebay doesn't care.  All Ebay cares about is the fees they make from the sales of forgeries.  Years ago, there was a seller of forged autographs on guitars and drum heads.  Before Ebay finally gave him the boot, he sold over $750,000 in forgeries.

The majority of forgeries sold on Ebay are from sellers who know ZERO about autographs.  They purchase their autographs from estate sales, local auctions, charity auctions, etc.  Then they look to flip those forgeries on Ebay for a profit.  Then there are the forgery rings on Ebay who intentionally sell forgeries to wannabe autograph collectors.  Ebay is probably the unsafest place to buy autographs.

$300.00 for an authentic Babe Ruth autograph?  Seriously?

Beanie babies and autographs.  That says it all.

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on May 26, 2013 at 10:20am

Because, Michael Medina (Ebay seller Original3745786), I was making a point. 

You commented about your 100% feedback.  And I made the point that 100% feedback means nothing (for the most part) when it comes to sellers of autographs.  The majority of Ebay sellers who sell forgeries have 100% feedback.  They have 100% feedback because sellers of forgeries always make sure they ship their items quickly.  Their feedback has nothing to do with the authenticity of the autographs they sell.  That was my point.

The main reason why scammers have their way selling their forgeries on Ebay is because the majority of so-called autograph collectors have ZERO knowledge of autographs.  Buyers have this preconceived notion that because an autograph is listed on Ebay it must be authentic.  That's the furthest from the truth.  Ebay does not filter out forgeries.

Permalink Reply by dexter krieger on May 26, 2013 at 10:08am

I auction was canceled, not by your choice. eBay went ahead and did it.

Permalink Reply by Erich Jerozal on May 26, 2013 at 11:47am

d***** bag.

Permalink Reply by m on May 26, 2013 at 12:41pm

The first item has been removed/cancelled or what ever you want to call it, no payment on my end was ever received, I never once made a penny selling signatures, i buy from estate sales as a hobby,any dishonest person that did not care would not even take the time to write on here,go after auctionzip.com and kaptain kirks auctions on there website. they made money off me, i already opened a dispute with paypal because of this, and just clear the air i love gay people and i love women, have a bless day to all and no animosity, have to talk first, and listen, use the time to target the one making the fakes and selling them, not the one that has 0 sales in autographs that clearly shows that i dont know or do this kind of thing. i plan on being on ebay in the future, if i would have known these were so called not real i would never list, and if someone online told there fake i need ebay to tell me or someone that knows, and on here everyone seems to be a expert

Permalink Reply by wascher on May 26, 2013 at 1:23pm

Please refrain from name calling folks.

m - Michael Medina, if you run across any more autographs in the future, please feel free to ask on the forum before listing the item, so you can get an opinion on its authenticity.  Start a new discussion, post a photo, and people WILL help you if you ask, that's what this site is for.  The forum is very helpful that way, however they won't put up with dishonesty or selling of forgeries, as I'm sure you now know.

Thanks

Wascher - moderator

Permalink Reply by wascher on May 26, 2013 at 1:32pm

If you would like I can remove your account. 

Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on May 26, 2013 at 5:10pm

This is entertaining. Michael Medina.............Ebay seller Original3745786 tired to save face quicker than all outdoors. You notice he deleted his account. This was simply to try and take down the use of his name or ebay name from coming up during a google search (as i told him about). He realized this was true and deleted it.

He also did so b/c of the name calling and other comments that he left that showed that he clearly sold these autographs knowing they were fake. He also wanted the comments deleted that showed where he tried to skirt ebays rules and stick it to the customers. He then came back under the name M, and apologized and acted like he had no idea.

You notice how in one comment he asks to have his account deleted b/c of name calling. This is his way of cleverly saying delete my account b/c of what it shows i really am, and by stating that the reason for deleting it was others name calling, he thinks future viewers will be fooled. But he was the one name calling, and he was the one knowingly selling forgeries. His deleting of his account had nothing to do with name calling and rudeness. It had to do with evidence in his own words showing that he knowingly sold forgeries to rip off customers and violate ebays policies. 

He thinks that people will see this and think hes a stand up guy, and b/c he deleted all his incriminating and admitting comments, that he is safe from people searching his name. But that act doesnt fly and he admitted he knew the whole time that he knew these were bad. Then he starts the name calling and gay comments, and then tries to come back under M to make it all better.

Well you have a problem Michael Medina aka: Original3745786. Your names are still going to come up on any google search. Not only that but the members here saw all the filth you sprayed and how you shamelessly tried to sell these forgeries after knowing they were bad. And in your own words, you stated yesterday that you would never delete your comments on here. Yet you did just that. I guess that means as much as when you gave frost your word that you would never sell those babe ruth's. Yep your word means something huh Michael?

How pathetic and sad. But have no fear, your name is now out here for all to see.

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on May 26, 2013 at 5:55pm

Carl, Michael Medina asked me to remove this blog, and, of course, I replied "No."

Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on May 26, 2013 at 8:04pm

Right on Mr. Williams. I had a feeling he may try that. After being exposed for the person he is, he is trying to save face and get all this removed before people see it.

And to think if he would have just done the right thing and done what he said he would (take down and not sell the bad autographs) then their would be none of this. But instead he lied and sold the first Ruth to the highest bidder. Then put up another one.....twice.......and admitted that one was certed by rare and signed too (which is banned on ebay, and Medina acknowledged this and state he would never sell a fake autograph). He deliberately and admittedly left out the COA on the 2nd ruth to avoid the auction being taken down by ebay for violation, and to knowingly sell the forgery. All of his efforts to now hide things would have never been necessary had he just thought about how others would feel when they received these Ruths and found out they were forgeries. Its not enough that he had these bad graphs knowingly, but he had to pass them off. The money ruled over everything in this case, and hopefully we have saved some uninformed buyers the money and hassle of buying these fake Ruths. (Fakes that were known about by Medina and still sold).

He deleted all of his comments, but everyone who was a member of this thread got updates when he replied, and these updates are still readily available. So his comments can be brought back at any time. But after his homosexual remarks ill leave them off for now. 

Hopefully we will never see these Ruth's pop up from him again but if it does we will always have this as a record

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