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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 22, 2018 at 11:31pm

I think it was signed by hand, slowly and badly.

At first I thought it could be a crudely made stamp, but there's ink laying on ink so that's unlikely.

Forgot to say not signed by hand by Dylan.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on November 23, 2018 at 8:19am

when I blew it up it almost looked like the machine type signing thing we were talking about .

theres was something weird that's why I posted it

its for sale for 250$ yes not real

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 23, 2018 at 9:28am

I thought about that, too, Marc, and you be right.

What makes me think that it likely isn't machine signed is that machine signed autographs are usually modeled closely after a real one, and they're typically signed fairly quickly, often, we believe, on a computer plotter, so there is not as much pooling at the end of lines.

Then again, it could be modeled after a poor forgery.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on November 23, 2018 at 9:35am

that I agree but look at the,not sure how to put it but see the lines or hair lines around some of the letters like it skipped or not proper pressure

like it flakes especialy around the  the letter d  b and n .that's not how a man made graph should look

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 23, 2018 at 10:06am

Marc,

I like that you're thinking about the way something was signed. I think could be someone looking at another Dylan signature and trying to copy it, but I'm not sure.

I desaturated the ink so we can see the pen movements better and the flow inside the letters. On plotters I'm aware of, curves usually have a grinding or twirling look to the ink flow, because that's they way plotters used to make curves. But there are so many new technologies that I'm not aware of that I'm probably thinking back in the stone age.

Here's the desaturated version. It enlarges:

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Permalink Reply by marc e on November 23, 2018 at 2:22pm

look at the bottom line like the bottom of the b and other letter a dark circle of blue very strange almost like tracing points

the sharpie should go on evenly .this one has so many weird trates.

I try to dissect  stuff that's one to help authentic autographs also. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 23, 2018 at 2:28pm

I'll ask Garry King to take a look.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2018 at 3:12pm

Whatever it is it doesn't look human to me. Two series of evenly spaced artifacts, some in separate strokes.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 23, 2018 at 3:53pm

Marc, do you have that in-hand? Can you take a higher resolution scan if you do?

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Permalink Reply by marc e on November 23, 2018 at 4:46pm

Nope it was an Ebay thing. I was looking at a sellers art work and he was selling his in person Dylan signed ticket. And it just stood out so I grabbed a pic.

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