Disney and Chaplin

Hi everybody,

I just found someone who is selling his 30-year-collection, which contains some high priced items. They all seem to be good, but weren't obtained in person or from a reputable dealer. That's why I would like to ask you for your help.

This Disney (1962) and Chaplin were obtained ttm. What do you think? Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 13, 2022 at 7:02am

The Disney looks pretty good. I would have Phil Sears take a look to be sure.

Permalink Reply by eddy on February 13, 2022 at 8:49am

Hi KaiMi  -  The Disney is very elaborate.  I wonder about him signing ttm in pencil....more difficult to access the age of the signature than ink.  I don't see the "l" in "Walt" and the "t" is thin.  Is that pebble texture paper? It can allow for less accuracy and the ability to start and stop in drawing with less detection. As Joe suggests, might be worth your while to have Phil Sears look at it.

 I'm attaching two samples of Chaplin "Best Wishes" notes.  They are a few decades apart but both fairly consistent.  The first is from an album page and the second ttm.  Notice how the handwriting rises a bit diagonally left to right.  The "B" in "Best" is capitalized. The "T" and "W" of "Best" and "Wishes" have connection.  The name itself is closer to his style than the salutation.  Maybe others will share thoughts.

Permalink Reply by michelle on February 13, 2022 at 9:04am

I am not that taken with the Disney sig, -  it looks very slowly written and as Etienne points out its difficult to see signs of age so be sure to get Phil Sears opin before buying

Permalink Reply by Nick Dimeo on February 13, 2022 at 9:46am

Etienne, you hit the nail on the head about this Chaplin especially about the salutation. I personally don’t like this autograph and would  steer clear as there is too much doubt. I think someone tried their best to copy his autograph, IMO.

Permalink Reply by KaiMi on February 13, 2022 at 11:19am

Lots of thanks to you all!

The Disney has the original envelope with it, so it seems to have come from the studio. What concerns me about it is the written note of the guy who claims to have gotten it originally - he is said to be american, but the orthography and grammar seems to be too poor for that.

Permalink Reply by eddy on February 13, 2022 at 11:25am

I remember seeing here on AL that there were proxies signing for Disney ttm and that experts can even tell you who it was based on the style.  Again, I find it odd that a ttm autograph would be in pencil.  You could allow for that as a vintage in person...but not so much ttm.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 13, 2022 at 12:43pm

There ar some very nice ones in charcoal. Disney sent a drawing to the 1939 New York World's Fair and I recall it was jet black charcoal.

Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 13, 2022 at 11:55am

Disney did have artists sign for him TTM. Personally, when it comes to Disney, I would not own one that Phil Sears doesn't authenticate. He does quick opinions. And he used to give free opinions to collectors who already own one.  His certificate is the gold standard. 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 13, 2022 at 12:14pm

+1 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 13, 2022 at 12:37pm

No address? Stamp? Glued down?

Permalink Reply by Bryan on February 15, 2022 at 4:22am

I am not sold on Chaplin, I don't know Disney's signature well enough to give opinion

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