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Permalink Reply by Stephen Woods on March 8, 2022 at 3:26am

Do they have the dots if you turn the page over?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 8, 2022 at 7:29am

There is a lot more to look for or at than dots.

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Permalink Reply by Jor-El on March 8, 2022 at 3:26am

Your 2 bottom right Dolly's are the same. Notice the distinct shape of the second circle on the bottom and the shape of all letters. The "love" aligns a little bit differently, but everything else lines up perfectly. The letters are exactly the same. Humanly improbably to create a signature that alike.

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Permalink Reply by ShadyBootlegger on March 8, 2022 at 3:28am

They were the ones that I thought was the same slightly different but the same :(

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Woods on March 8, 2022 at 3:49am

I actually think these ones look different. 
there’s a sort of upside down V in the bottom right one in the intersection of the circles that’s in a slightly different position in the one above. 
the bottom left one looks very different. 

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Permalink Reply by Jor-El on March 8, 2022 at 3:59am

When you examine closely, parts are in a slightly different position, but all the shapes are the same. Down to every angle and relative size of the lines.

It's easier to manipulate a machine into changing alignment of part of the autograph then it is for a human to sign every letter and shape the same except for alignment.

Maybe the machine signs in parts and the paper moved between parts.

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Permalink Reply by Pete D Moore on March 8, 2022 at 3:21am

Just refused my whsmith book from the postman and will be emailing them later . Hopefully i can knock out my waterstones one which should arrive tomorrow !! Lol . An absolute disgrace Dolly !!! So missy elliot can sign 3000 lithographs and she cant be bothered to sign 250 books and charge an excessive amount too !!! All the signatures on all the books shown here past and present regardless of the dots, do not look like a natural signature at all ! Its the same bold pen pressure throughout from start to finish ! With the black smoke cds im pretty sure she did recify some of those after being caught out  as i remember a pic being shown on this site of her signing the cd booklets?  It looks like this will be the only genuine one of her ill ever own below! The promos for the backwards barbie ones around 2008 or 09 were signed beautifully ! You can certainly see the natural flow here !! 

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on March 8, 2022 at 4:18am

I've never refused a package before. If I were to do this, do they refund the shipping price as well? Im in the US and shipping was expensive. Im not paying to ship it back and also, I absolutely expect a complete refund including original shipping. Just wondering if this would get it done..

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Permalink Reply by Pete D Moore on March 8, 2022 at 4:22am

To be honest jason im not sure sorry ! Ive asked for the full refund for sure !! 

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on March 8, 2022 at 4:30am

No worries. I was going to wait until this was delivered to email them but I may just start gathering info now to email them proof these are fake and see what they are willing to do if I refuse the package

I'm counting 5 different templates so far. I dont think I've missed any but someone correct me if im wrong

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Permalink Reply by Kate on March 8, 2022 at 4:10am

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Permalink Reply by Kate on March 8, 2022 at 4:31am

Reply from Waterstones. 

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