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Permalink Reply by ShadyBootlegger on March 8, 2022 at 8:03am

I’ve gone through PayPal for my foredune won’t have to return them this way saves all the hassle 

why should we return fake products for them to sell to someone else I don’t think so I’ll return them yeah but I’m ripping the signed crap out of it 

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Permalink Reply by Mikex on March 8, 2022 at 8:12am

Send the autograph page to Dolly with other samples and ask for an authentic hand signed copy.

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Permalink Reply by Jor-El on March 8, 2022 at 8:33am

Which option did you select? Last time I used "item not as described" but needed to return it first at my expense too. 

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Permalink Reply by ShadyBootlegger on March 8, 2022 at 10:15am

Item as not discribed I’ve not sent back anything before doing that 

I also put in it that I won’t return them and if I have to I’m taking the fake out just do that man it’s worth a shot 

plus I sent comparisons etc to back it up

PayPal never let me down 

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Permalink Reply by SKG on March 8, 2022 at 8:23am

I just hope beckett and jsa etc aren't authenticating these when their clearly auto pen I've seen alot of Florida georgia line cds on ebay with beckett or jsa certs where some of Brian's autos are real but some auto pen, but all of Tyler's are clearly autopen it sucks that crap like this goes on where us collectors and fans keep getting ripped off

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Permalink Reply by slappy 8955 on March 8, 2022 at 8:35am

Does psa refund people that have purchased fake authenticated items?

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Permalink Reply by Mikex on March 8, 2022 at 8:37am

They certainly don't. They give an opinion and not a certainty.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 8, 2022 at 8:38am

No. It's just an opinion, like yours. Or mine.

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Permalink Reply by SKG on March 8, 2022 at 8:40am

I'm not for sure if they do or not you'd think they'd be obligated to though if what they certified was proven a 100percent fake

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 8, 2022 at 8:50am

That would likely not be a business model they'd be pleased with. Shareholders first...collectors are not a prime concern IMO. Tertiary maybe. They'll keep customers happy of course, for reassons other than the quality of your collection.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 8, 2022 at 8:34am

An orchestrated and relentless email onslought can work. Once one of our National Museums stole a postcard design I had submitted and use it for the frontis peice of a text book published by Yale. That use was not contracted, nor credit given for the source image and design, They even used my font. I just kepy invoicing the head of the Museum Board every day. After a several days they paid me what I wanted. Keep writing those letters and use social media. I've heard of some folks settling and keeping this facsimile. Treat it as any other Autopen you might accidentally purchase. Get your money back! This is fraud and intent might well be demonstrated by the number of patterns/templates. I see it as "Dolly" getting a nice interest free loan - how long has it been? Even with returns, how much interest did they make with collectors money?

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Permalink Reply by Stepeanut on March 8, 2022 at 9:03am

Here is my copy, bought from WHSmith:

To my eyes, the Dolly definitely looks like an autopen.

The James Patterson I’m not so sure about.  I see variable pressure, tapered ends, and none of the infamous dots.  That said, I’m not as familiar with autopen signatures as some here.

Do we have exact matches for either one or both of these sigs?

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