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About 2 years ago eBay asked me to participate in a new program called Enhanced Member Reporting (EMR) for the Autograph and Entertainment categories. It was the first time in my 12 years on eBay that eBay began to take noticeable action against the proliferation of scam operations. In particular, the massive number of online autograph forgers. I recall one forger who sold an estimated 200,000-300,000 forgeries operated unscathed for about 4-5 years on eBay before they finally, after an onslaught of complaints, removed this individual from eBay. But, not before he made millions$$ and even worse flooded the autograph industry with these forgeries.
The outrageous part of this was that he was a very low level, unskilled forger. Every week he would post about 2000 forgeries on the same blue paper, and the same style forgeries of Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Humphrey Bogart and the list goes on. Of course he sold these for a tiny fraction of their value , but he didn’t care because he had no overhead except for a lot of blue paper and blue flair pens. . I know of several people that were reporting him to eBay back in the days when eBay just “looked the other way”. It was painful to see so many people/victims getting ripped off. Sure, we all hear, buyer beware and “anyone ignorant enough to buy a ridiculous fake deserves what he gets”. But, not all these inexperienced eBay buyers deserved being victimized by these eBay “crooks”. A friend of mine just wanted a special gift for his very sick son who was a big Elvis fan. He was an inexperienced eBay user and assumed everything being sold, with a COA was legitimate. It was also painful for me to have to give him the bad news about the forgery he had bought.
Meanwhile, about 5-6 years ago someone referred me to Rob Chestnut who was the VP of eBay Safe Harbor at the time. Rob was the first person I met at eBay who actually cared about this issue of blatant fraud. It was uplifting to see action finally being executed against some of the most notorious eBay autograph forgery operations. I even suspect Rob may have butted heads with executive management over this issue, because soon after the “cleanup” began, Rob was gone. And, I soon noticed my forgery reports were “falling on deaf ears” AGAIN and forgery operations began to gain new life.
The EMR program is not perfect (I still watch a forger of cartoonist art like Charles Schulz continuing to operate on a regular basis for the past 10 years). But it has been a step in the right direction. And, I will go out on a limb and say I am proud of eBay management, even if much too late, to finally be taking an active stand in circumventing many of the fraudulent operations on eBay. Even if it only amounts to a fraction of the illegal activity. Below is part of the email I received today. Note, the second most active category, Sports & Entertainment Memorabilia. I am sure you can guess what makes up about 99% of the reports for that category?
“We would like to thank your participation in the Enhanced Member Reporting (EMR) program. For 2 years now, this program has been very important in reducing items that should not be listed on eBay and has improved safety for the eBay community.
EMR Statistics
· In March, we took action on 75% of the reports submitted by members of the Enhanced Member Reporting community.
· Top Reported Categories:
o Clothing, Shoes, & Accessories
o Sports & Entertainment Memorabilia
o Jewelry, Gems, & Watches”
Meanwhile., take a look at a report I wrote about this subject a couple years ago and share with anyone you think could benefit from tips on How to Avoid Getting Ripped Off on eBay or other online sources. . .
http://www.cvtreasures.com/safe-buying-online-guide-page-2
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Here is the original listing I reported thatw as not yanked:
However, the relisting appears to have been yanked. Perhaps the wheels turn very slowly.
Part of the issue is there is no clear drop down option for a complaint of this nature.
What I did was:
Listing Violations > Counterfeits and copyright violations > Other potential infringement > Unauthorized use of celebrity faces, names or signatures
Item Numbers(s):
220759037107
Message: Seller using banned COA from Nicholas Burczyk.
that's good to know as the pull down windows are a nightmare to remember which combination to use and you are right about they are not applicable (even to this). The message area is worse than a Tweet!
they do move slowly but at least they seem to be moving whereas before I am not sure movement was in their vocabulary.
when I look at the listing I am not seeing the Burczyk but rather, "The signature is authenticated and guarnteed to be real" and can only hope the "authenticity" is better than the spelling. Did they just delete the COA reference? The item has ended and appears it was relisted but that relisting also comes up; This listing (320677786985) has been removed, or this item is not available.
and doesn't it figure that it is a Mickey Mantle! Thus, if they simply removed the reference to the item as it appears was done then this is how they get around the banned list. Anyone surprised yet? Or - as in the case of Stan's Sporting Store (YO A/ALERT imbecile followers get the story right) COAs... were simply changed to the "seller" and the added "got 'em at ......"
Image #4 is a Burczyk COA on the original listing. It's still viewable.
Classic Burczyk Milkey Mantle
Hi All,
When I wrote this post over a year ago the point I was trying to make was in “relative” terms. If you were on eBay back in the mid 90’s you knew the forgery market which absurd, I mean out of control. Yes, far worse than today. Are there still forgeries on eBay ? Of course. Will there ever be a day when no forgeries appear on eBay ? Yes, when eBay bans autographs altogether. Meanwhile, forgers will always have an incentive to peddle their fraudulent material s long as the market allows it (both eBay and the buyers of these forgeries).
Update: I will say that over the past few months eBay seems to have “slipped” back. They have lost a bit of their motivation to remove blatant forgeries compared to a couple years ago. I think this has a lot to do with “who” is running the “Safe Harbor” program (or whatever their anti-fraud program is called today).
Look what I just found on e-bay. Cracking down or aiding and abetting??? Sad.
5 available $99.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/NFL-Officially-Licensed-Product-Hologram-Sticke...
They appear to be real - either way, it's a serious problem!
I just sent a couple of emails to the league as well.
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