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Has JSA called a authentic a fake?
Has anyone out there experienced a time when JSA told you a real signature is a fake? I know that they have certified questionable signatures as real. Just wondering.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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That happens. Sometimes by mistake and sometimes because a real autograph doesn't look right.
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Permalink Reply by Dr. Douglas Shuler on
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I recently had this occur, as a practitioner of document and signature examination I am questioning their findings. Thank you for the response.
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Post the autograph here if you'd like. You can often get valuable input on whether it's likely genuine or not.
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Steve I may just do that after bit. I've been responding with my opinion to others as well. Thank you for the input.
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Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on
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My personal pet peeve with most TPA's is that you usually never know who actually looked at the signature in question. Do they have entertainment experts only look at those or does the sports guy do it sometimes? So I am not surprised if they would fail a good signature especially if it is atypical in some way.
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Since no two signatures are ever alike, and over time people variate their signatures, this is one thing that needs to be looked at. I know for a fact that most of these folks working for these places have no formal training. I have been through 2, going on 3 formal programs in fraud and document examination and have literally been turned down by these places because they don't want the competition. But, people are so mesmerized by the fact that the holy grail to authentication is through them, I mean try selling something that does not have their sticker on it. They have you by the short hairs.
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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on
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Do you mean the same formal training that Drew Max, Chris Morales, and Stephen Rocchi have?
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Not unless they went to the same schools I've attended. Let's hope not!
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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good one, Chris!
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Thank you, Terrier.
Formal training? Really?
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Permalink Reply by Rich on
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I think the more knowledgable collectors realize how badly flawed even the best authenticators are. Mistakes galore and plenty of bad practices in the name of money making that lead to spotty services. JSA seems like they've been the target of increasing criticism over that past few years, and rightfully so.
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It is almost an assembly line process where they decide the fate of the issue based on the money they can make. Examinations are a science and process where with due regard and time a person can give a much better opinion.
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