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it looks like the Hillary Duff signed Cds in the UK are Autopen if mine from talk shop are also I;m sending them right back

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Hopefully we will, or find them online.

I have just been onto eBay.co.uk and found these two examples which confirm autopen unfortunately. Clearly she’s using several variations.

Good job with orientation but for some reason the quality of the photo is degraded. The new photo doesn't show Chris's autopen shakiness which really is the most telltale sign of these old autopen machines besides the dot and uniform thickness. I'll try to re-upload a zoomed in version to highlight the shakiiness that seems to be smoothed out in your photo. Autopens don't always show this trait but it seems to be apparent in this one. (Just stating facts for everyone else reading. Lots of new collectors who are Duff fans won't be aware of all autopen traits)

Either way, this is really upsetting 

Thanks guys, good work all round. Very disappointing, but we move on, seek a refund and if she brings out a signed option for her next album no one from the forum will be buying a copy.

Personally I have re-named her album by changing just the one letter!!

That is really too bad, I was afraid of that. :( In Autopens from the 60's that shake is very apparent where there are curves (zig-zag) such as the Judy Garland fan club Autopens etc.

I collected a bunch of politicians ttm in the 90s and if you didn't know they were autopen, you'd swear they had Parkinson's. Those were some terrible machines.. not all but many

Well my TSL purchase is in transit from FL even though I emailed a heads up about the autopens and asking them to have someone check their stock before shipping these out. Of course no reply. Why wouldn't they care how much this would cost them in returns? Are most buyers oblivious when this happens or just don't care?

Because they will fight you till the death on taking a return. They will claim they are legit. And even when you send something back they never credit you when they get it. Been there, done that.

I forgot about what others have went through. My track record with them has been great over the years. I always felt bad for others on here with horror stories but I personally never seen it myself. I guess I'll see what happens and I'll be ready for a new fight if need be. It seems like this is going to be another huge autopen fiasco and something they might not be able to ignore. It's everywhere on forums at this point. Fun challenge? I'll be ready 

I wonder what they do with the interest they make while they have your $? Just a thought.

Valid question but I'm not too concerned as an individual purchase. With all orders, I guess it might be enough to pay for everyone requesting a return if most people give up quickly. Kind of tough to complain about. Demand causes these to sell out or at least create a huge amount of revenue before release. It would be smart on their part to maximize this as much as possible. There's nothing we can do about that aside from not make the purchase in the first place. Unless there's something I'm missing 

This ultimately falls on Duff and her management but as a 3rd party, TSL is still responsible. I will be complaining to both sides however possible until I'm satisfied for sure. Still early though let's see what happens. This could always turn out like Alicia Keys for example, most sources autopen while retailers like oblong being authentic. It would be interesting. If true, Hillary did state she was hand signing these according to what I've read from others but it's something I will look into to verify 

https://www.reddit.com/r/SignedAlbums/s/Y3YcXNn62f

Ok, just verified it was in fact her account that this comment came from

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