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Is this one of Roger's certificates and does it look real?

is this one of rogers old certs and is it real

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 2, 2018 at 4:49pm

Hi John,

I've not seen that cert before. No date, but a number? Unsigned? UACC? Wasn't it said re the last fake certs he is not UACC? First names only on the description seems odd. 

Edit to add: I have seen his certs from back to 2008 or so and they appear much more like the current. Not familiar with this cert you posted. 

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 4:54pm

I might roger and ask him

I'm doing leg work on something and it looks like a ton of bad s*** and certs

way back when certs where very no descript.

basicly just a piece a paper and description is what most people did 20 years ago

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 3, 2018 at 2:24pm

ITS A REAL ROGER CERT

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 6:25pm

roger said I had to pay him 15$ to tell me if his certification is real

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 6:44pm

unf cking belivalble imagine sothebys or chisties telling some that they have to pay to let them know if that certificate is fake from an itiem theY bought.

they all have data bases.

PSA AND JSA ARE SO MUCH NICER AND RESPONSIBLE

SUCH BS .GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE .NOT

great customer service .m

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 2, 2018 at 7:31pm

$15 to tell you if the COA is legit without seeing what it's attached to? Weird.

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 7:40pm

I emailed him a question .I asked is this your certificate and is it real

he asked me were was the itiem 

I sent him a link

he said because his name wasn't on the coa he wanted 15$ from me so he can tell me if it was a real coa.

this is his exact quote :

You will have to pay the $15 fee for my opinion as none of these Loas even state my name

ALL I WANTED TO KNOW WAS THE SAME QUESTIONED I ORIGINALY ASKED HERE WAS THE CERT I SENT HIM A PICTURE OF WAS IT REAL OR LEGIT.

DINT WANT HIM TO VERIFY ANYTHING ELSLE

IT HAS HIS ADDRESS AND COMPNY NAME .

ps he should know if its a fake cert or not without seeing an itiem. he could say I never issued certs like that or yes I have 

didn't want him to say anything more than yes its a legit cert or not and I certified the itiem .

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on March 2, 2018 at 7:58pm

It sounds like he's telling you that it isn't his COA.

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 8:01pm

And wouldnt a responsible business owner just say that. Instead of being needy of 15$.and be happy I emailed him so he can contact the sellers about the fake cert

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 2, 2018 at 8:57pm

I read it like Ballroom does. When you asked him if it was his COA and was it real, he must have meant you wanted to know if the autograph was real, not just the COA. He's never charged to say whether a COA was his or not.

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 2, 2018 at 9:01pm

I asked him the same question asked here. And he told me to pay him 15$. I told him I don t want him to authenticate anything just is the coa real. There' no way he miss understood me.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 2, 2018 at 9:31pm

This just looks like a misunderstanding, John.

Reading your post again, it sounds like he was looking at several COAs near the link you sent him, and figured you  figured wanted an opinion on the autograph too. 

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