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The following JDM signed item is up for sale in RR's May 19 auction. It is only the second known signed photo by Jim and is indeed a Jim-era print. It is featured on the cover of the catalog and comes with an Epperson COA.This item bothers me a lot. It's been said before (which is true) that if you sat down and signed your own name 100 times, they would all look slightly to even completely different. The sig as a whole and letters will vary a lot. Obviously no 2 would be exactly alike so i don't want to hear that as an excuse on this particular signature. 

Let's start with the pink elephant on the picture. The "i" is dotted with a small circle. I have now 102 authentic JDM exemplars in my personal files and not one of them has a dotted "i" on which he signed since Ray and Jim met on the beach and formed The Doors. Jim Did dot his"i" though 3 times. All 3 are from his 61' senior yearbooks which he signed for a classmate.All 3 as you see are with dotted i's, and exactly that an i with a dot above it. RR's "i" is topped off not dotted but with a small circle. Never saw that before. (also notice that in the yearbooks, Jim's sig is continuous throughout versus the sig we are all used to seeing which is broken down into JM-ORR-I-SON). 

The last loop of the M is a tad to high isn't it? very unusual as all the loops of his "M's" are almost always the same height. The first"O" is completely off. It starts high and is an open "O". 99% of his first "O" tucks into itself before transitioning into the first "R". RR's "ORR" looks identical to a Morrison sig on Roger's website which he states is a forgery. (shown below)

.To me the most suspicious portion of the RR sig is the "SON" which is completely uncharacteristic of him. The "S" looks like an 8. The "O" which follows the "S" is awful and take a look at how the "O" transitions into the "N" with that "downward loop" versus the way he normally did it which is transitioning up or a small horizontal line into the "N". This to me is a tell because all the forgers do this and get that part wrong.

I think Roger is one of the best in the business and have a lot of respect for him and for what he has done to help our hobby. But i just can't see how RR's item is genuine.I couldn't bid on it with confidence. It just has way too many anomalies. Many authentic Jim sigs have that occasional letter that looks totally wrong, but it's still authentic. How many things did i list on RR's sig that just don't look right.

         Opinions please.

                              Best, Jack...

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Hi Bradford, i have absolutely no problem with it. I think it would be great. If you're talking about transferring the entire thread, i'm not exactly sure how to do that. I would consult Steve for i'm sure he could do it in a flash.     Best, Jack...

Probably best to cut/paste and modify. Check out the other posts. You have what it takes to provide an excellent signature study.

Bradford, give me a little time and i will put something together. Keep in mind, Jim has only around 100 or so known exemplars of authentic sigs versus someone like P. McCartney who has signed thousands of sigs over 5 decades and who has a very wide spectrum of varying styles over the span of all those years.      

                 Best, Jack... 

I found this cheque on psa dna's website, but still the rr auction graph is far from this.
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Wow! sold for $14,000.00 including BP. 

I know,I'm quite surprised. Maybe they knew something g we didnt.lol
I wonder what Epperson would say about the Morrison, thats If he could shed any light on it.

He was the authenticator of the item and comes with his COA. 

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