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Lewis Carroll Signatures - Authentic?

Can anyone weigh in on these two Lewis Carroll (C.L. Dodgson) signatures? In every example I can find, Dodgson includes the "L" in the signature, and in all but a few, the "D" connects to the "o". Thanks for any assistance.

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on July 19, 2023 at 1:13pm

I actually looked a bit at his signature several years ago when a collector friend was seeking a piece by him. I think you are doing well to have some concern about these. I wouldn't be so worried about the "D" connecting to the "o" as much as the lack of the "L". It would be enough for me to avoid. Even if these are real, it's a different signature altogether from his classic style.

Here's an RR example of the "D"/"o" separated:

https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/344673206140555-charl...

p.s. That first one especially looks like something that might have been printed mechanically. The ink doesn't seem to have any age related or pressure application nuances.