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Thanks for the additional examples. I'll try to do some overlaying with those vs the other examples l've accumulated. Appreciate the input as well from Eric, that was my thought too. We were wondering what you thought of these so far.

I'm trying to figure out how to best post videos, and I'm going to repost this one here. I just realized it's buried back on page 3 in my response to Allginger. This is Allginger's overlaid with one of Tobysautographs. Again, focus only on the "Liza." While not 100% exact, it's very close and I just don’t see how it’s possible if by hand. 

Overlay%20-%20Allginger%20and%20Tobysautographs.mp4

Wow! Awesome work  Matt M !!!

These are NOT looking good are they?

I mean those Liza's fit perfectly right over top of one another, and even

the dots and letter "a" seem to click in/snap in/ fit perfectly in your example .

The smiley face is just a slight variation.

Perhaps they've employed a hybrid autopen that can shift a little and use varying templates for different parts of the "signature"?

ugh,

JJ

Thanks JJ, I’m not sure what to make of it but seems suspicious at this point. I’m still working on it but going to take a break for a bit and get back to it this evening. FWIW, many of the examples that I have randomly overlaid do not match although they show similarities (which I would expect to find for someone who commonly signs their name and is signing a ton in this situation)…some of the loops overlay nicely here and there, but I don’t think that’s enough to worry about. But the example above appears to overlay at multiple points. I’m still working with the two examples from Stonefacejr as well but not finding multiple points of overlay yet. 

Hey  Matt M. and  Jason H .

This whole Liza autopen debate has really caught wind on Facebook

and other sites now.

Here is a sample page of a Facebooker I saw that is doing what we did when we

got "Dylan"ed.

Mines going back, don’t like it. Also these are £30 on ebay which speaks volumes 

Zimmerman still holds the record for The World's Biggest Dirt Bag Stunt for charging $3300 a piece for hot, steaming piles of garbage "autographs." He'd still be happily ripping people off if it wasn't for his giant dirt bag book although I did see Liza recently changed her middle name from May to Lot so that might be a clue JJ. 'Liza Lot Minnelli.' Hmmmm.... 

3300?  I thought the 'signed' book was only 600??

No, he was selling autopenned "paintings" for $3300ish through Castle Art and Idiots or some shitte heel gallery. He was grabbing money from fans and collectors with both hands, feet and whatever else he could use. It was quite impressive. A world record if you will... 

Agree with you 100%  Knob Dylan !!!

I still remember when our community began making the breakthrough connections between the similar "autographs" and Jason H did a stellar painstaking job of illustrating all of the similar book "signatures", and autopen variants.

I contacted/Direct Messaged him and said "Do you think Dylan would do this on all of his Art Prints too?"...

Our community here rallied and Dylan's Book and Art Fraud were exposed, and Dylan was taken down! You're right Dylan reigns with The World's Biggest Dirt Bag Stunt!

JJ

You guys kicked arse JJ. You and many others saved me a lot of money and time b/c I was just about to purchase one of his wonderful "paintings." I still can't believe he's would've done that, I mean how much money is enough? All of it? And a lot of people were his fans. It was truly amazing. It's a great community here. People look out for one another, it's becoming more and more rare. 

It's a great community here for sure Knob Dylan

People really do look out for one another.

I make sure to regularly thank  Steve Cyrkin, Admin for making

this  Musician-Direct Autograph Sales forum available for us.

JJ

Steve's the man, it's a fantastic website and community. And it's also the reason I love a good "Jim-spiration" every now and again. 

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