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Mantle and DiMaggio authentic?

Not sure if these are authentic or not. Any help is appreciated thank you for your help.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on July 18, 2017 at 7:03pm

Negative on all.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Faley on July 18, 2017 at 7:16pm

What is the tell? Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on July 18, 2017 at 7:28pm

Avoid. Those aren't even good forgeries.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 19, 2017 at 5:19am

I wouldn't touch any of them

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Faley on July 19, 2017 at 6:13am

Since I am learning what are the signs to look for that make them fake? Thank you for your help.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Carelli on July 19, 2017 at 6:16am

I myself am just starting to learn what to look for......my inexperienced opinion is the first Mantle, I see "bananas" ...the second one..."Milky Mautle"?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on July 19, 2017 at 7:19am

They are known mass-produced cookie cutter fake styles, so to trained eyes, they are obvious.

The first thing to notice is the Mantle in blue and the DiMaggio are slowly penned. Not smooth and flowing like a natural signature. Instead they look "heavy" and methodical. Subtle signs of shakiness and hesitation.

The Mantle in black is badly distorted and looks oddly warped. Slant and pressure are way off.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Carelli on July 19, 2017 at 9:20am

Thank you for educating us un experienced. ....every little bit helps

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Faley on July 19, 2017 at 1:23pm

Thank you Steve. Appreciate the lesson. Every little bit does help. Definitely need to educate myself more on this.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 19, 2017 at 3:12pm

if you look at PSA or JSA certed Mantle's and Dimaggio's, and study them, at some point, the forgeries will become evident. it does not require a technical detail of mistakes, you will just get used to the flow and shape of the authentic versions. Most of the legitimate TPA's get these two correctly. That would include SGC and Beckett.