Jim as I am sure you have realized by now, this rabble rousing group is more accurate that the greater majority of "3rd party authenticators" combined. For the most part they are not paid for authenticators but their exhaustive knowledge on Mantle is quite good. While the manner in which it is sometimes communicated is not always pleasant it seldomly misses the mark.
Did an NVA COA get posted, yet? This is a link to the Banned List so you can fish for yourself in the future; http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/autographs.html if you have questions, as I did, many moons ago about the entries just ask as the list can easily be misinterpreted.
Jim...this is what an authentic Mantle looks like...unfortunately that ball will never pass PSA and or JSA...its worth less then the ball cube...not saying by any means you don't have a good reputation...The guys on the show Pawn Stars sold one just like yours about a year and a half ago...and I am sure there rep is pretty respectable...but these forgery style fakes are out there give or take in the 6 figure range...they have infected the industry terribly and will probably be out there in the market for the next 20 years to come...these forgers sold over 100,000,000.00 in forgery sales at the height of the Operation Bullpen days...this is one of those fakes...sorry
Jim I also want to mention that Chris, Zipper, Cee Gee, and others do not like to give away specific autograph tips as they do not want to inform the forger on how to improve his craft.
I don't blame them one bit. I wouldn't either.
Mr. Zipper, well written as usual, but as both you and I know, those without a trained eye cannot see the slowness.
These forgeries are meant to have the appearance of being authentic since they are being purchased by those who know zero about autographs, and that's why the forgers and sellers of forgeries will always be in business.
Forgers and sellers of forgeries count on the wannabe collectors to purchase forgeries like the one highlighted in this thread. It has ruined the hobby to the point that the hobby will forever be infected with this garbage.
We will continue to expose this crap as long as sellers continue to list them.
plus, on the balls (no pun intended)...when he starts the M's, you can almost always notice a "ink dot" right where the pressure on the pen starts and it almost always crosses flawlessly or close to it on the balls. On Photo's, I call this "dropping ink". There is sometimes more wiggle room with photos as he will come up short when making his M's. Forgers CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER get this right.
Great points Zipper...I will also like to add placement of a authentic Mickey Mantle auto and formation of like Zipper pointed out is Mantles M's...those Banana shaped M's are always a dead give away...Mantle signed very sharp and like Zipper also mentioned very fast as shown in my photo example where the E and Y in Mickey is not even connected....that's from shear signing speed as well...also notice how smooth this auto is...fluid...and almost perfect...fakes almost always have hesitation and shaking or tremors in the letter formation...there is so many things to look out for but those really are the best things to look at first...
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