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Maris/Mantle Forgery eBay seller lunker
Here is a horrible dual forgery listed by eBay seller lunker
These are cheap obvious forgeries. BIN of $650 which would be a STEAL if authentic. COA from "Drew Max" .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roger-Maris-Mickey-Mantle-autographed-Yanks...
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Permalink Reply by Erich Jerozal on
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Twice.
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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on
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Look at that crap listed by Ebay seller Lunker.
Typical crap "authenticated (cough, cough)" by Drew Max.
Look at those two putrid-looking forgeries of Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris.
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Drew "My Magnifying Glass Is Bigger Than Yours" Max.
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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should be listed under "clunker"
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Maybe Marc Goldman (President of AAU) can join the conversation and defend Drew Max.
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Permalink Reply by bill black on
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You guys are just idiots. First for slandering me. I merely posted an item that was authenticated by Drew Max. I did not create the item. You all think everyone except PSA is a fraud and you are wrong. Drew Max is a board certified and court approved authenticator. He has been educated to authenticate. He has a long list of clients and testimony in the courts across the country. His testimony and expert judgement is widely accepted.
He is NOT banned from Ebay...check the list.
Also his certificates do NOT read "we have the right to change our minds for any reason" as most of the so-called industry collector/authenticators do.
This site, I believe to be as front for PSA/DNA. And, you have no right to slander me for listing a product that has been authenticated by an expert. If you want to introduce yourselfves to me directly please do so. Don't hide behind false names.
I am merely a collector selling my collection.
One other thing. Autograph Collector was a very viable publication and an industry standard when the partners ran it years ago. The a person purchased it that has ties to PSA and ran it into the ground. Now it's on the internet and a defunct publication.
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Permalink Reply by Null on
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"You guys are just idiots"
Oh Hi Bill, welcome to AML
"You all think everyone except PSA is a fraud and you are wrong. "
This could not be further from the truth.
"He is NOT banned from Ebay...check the list."
"I am merely a collector selling my collection."
And we are merely a group of collectors trying to warn others about FORGERIES that people on eBay dump on them.
These are poorly executed obvious forgeries Bill. Why else would you list this for $650 BIN? A FRACTION of what an authentic Maris/Mantle piece in this condition would sell for. Do the hobby a favor and toss this in the shredder.
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1. Forensic Document Services does not refer to Authentic Autographs unlimited.
2. Drew Max carries a $1,000,000 professional liability policy. If anyone can prove that any of his authentications are not authentic...his policy will pay.
3. Go for it and prove him wrong rather that just spread nonsense.
4. This site and ex-magazine is tied to PSA and its publisher is too. Wake up PSA, JSA and all the other collectors turned authenticators will not and can not back up their opinions and that is why their COA's state "we have the right to change our minds for any reason.' Give me a break....with that note, what is their COA worth, nothing.
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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on
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Sorry Bill, after reading number 2, i couldnt control my laughter. Max has been proven wrong more times that the sun has set.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Ryan,
AAU/Drew Max is not on eBay's banned authenticator list as far as I know. "Forensic Document Services" is not a category term, it's the name of a business.
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Good to know Steve.
Regardless, it doesn't matter what piece of paper comes with this piece, they are obvious forgeries.
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Bill Black,
AAU/Drew Max is basically the same as Don Frangipani and Christopher Morales. You will find some genuine autographs with their letters of authentication, because a lot of collectors don't realize what they're all about, but the vast majority of what they certify as genuine is not. Your Maris and Mantle autographs are clearly fake in my opinion.
I have a suggestion: If you're not a member, join www.net54baseball.com and ask for opinions from members in their vintage autograph section. You'll find some members there who dislike PSA or JSA as much as you do. You'll get opinions you'll have a hard time calling biased.
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