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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on May 17, 2018 at 4:21am

Pathetic...

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 24, 2018 at 11:02pm

To quote John Lennon, "Here we go again." Here's another one that just appeared on eBay from PSA/DNA and probstein123:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/362330171470

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on May 24, 2018 at 11:09pm

Bad macca

Probstsein123 getting more suspicious 

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on May 25, 2018 at 12:35am

PSA getting more suspicious? 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 25, 2018 at 10:01am

It's a shame because I contacted the seller and they ignored the info I provided and went ahead and listed another one. I would expect this one to sell for even more than the photo.

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on May 25, 2018 at 11:07am

Well ya I guess the finger would be pointed at PSA and other TPA's in general. 

But again it's also a problem with sellers including some auction houses taking little to no responsibility in rechecking their items listed. 

But I also meant that I find the actions of Probstsein123 suspicious. Especially since he ignores responding to messages and keeps listing bad items. I don't follow him enough to make any account of the numbers but the red flag is raised for me. 

Its making selling forgeries getting too easy these days. And putting much more intent on the buyer to study harder.

IMO

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 25, 2018 at 12:50pm

I don't really find it suspicious. They're good forgeries that have been authenticated by an eBay-approved TPA. It would require some effort to understand the issue, which would only lead to a potential loss of their commission.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan on May 25, 2018 at 1:06pm

I am more concerned about PSA. Since Steve Grad left for Beckett, it’s like they’re not even trying. All the COAs are signed by Joe Orlando, not even a music expert. Anyone who knows Beatles knows these are the SoCal forger.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 25, 2018 at 1:20pm

Agreed. Ruling out a signature as being a SoCal forgery would seem to be one of the basics of Beatles autograph authentication. 

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on May 25, 2018 at 2:15pm

PSA has been known to listen to reason (Sometimes). Perhaps if a number of people contacted them with their concerns about all these So. Cal forgeries they may start looking more closely at them before issuing COAs?  

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on February 26, 2019 at 11:39am

Bruce, I emailed PSA and have received only an automated response that they are unusually busy. 

Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on May 25, 2018 at 2:18pm

I think the forgers have found a good "stooge" in Probstein as he sells 1000's of items on consignment so they can use his good feedback to cover their tracks. Whoever Probstein is, I'm betting he doesn't care if the items are authentic as long as they have COAs and sell. 

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