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Permalink Reply by Tom Wilson on July 19, 2016 at 6:08pm

Here's the photo of the 1st one exact match and it's a PSA DNA not the phantom777

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 7:30pm

Also if you wouldn't mind, if you aren't showing Hendrix items, can you please create a new discussion to ask about different MJ's you've found?  - Your new and haven't started a discussion yet.... so to do that you can click on the box right by the "Latest Activity" and click discussion (not blog please)  and start typing your new questions or discussion there :) (edit:  this is found on the home page of our forum)

I don't want to muddy up this discussion with items that don't pertain to this seller.   Much appreciated. 

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Permalink Reply by Tom Wilson on July 19, 2016 at 6:09pm

I see but also the exact photo that I showed you is a PSA so does 777phantom does his forgeries or does PSA makes forgeries I'm confused thanks a bunch

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 7:16pm

PSA quick opinion also passed one of Joe Hendrix's.  And JSA passed a bunch of Erick McKay forgeries as well. 

PSA & JSA are authentication services, they don't "make forgeries", they try to weed out the good from the bad by giving an "opinion" on items that have been submitted to them.  And I do believe they try... however some do get through.  I personally - would not want the one PSA passed that you posted.

Here are a few others that PSA signed off on.... that are no good. 

This one is a known style of secretarial, and it was known long before the date of 2013.

Here is how you tell this type of secretarial sig

And another.... (this is an Erick McKay drawing)

There are more but these were the best ones I had with an actual cert or sticker on them.

-w

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Permalink Reply by Tom Wilson on July 19, 2016 at 7:44pm

Ok I'm trying to stay on task sorry so Hendirx autographs are considered fake as WELL AS PSA DNA???? SO THEY PASS AND SELL FAKES AS WELL am I understanding it correctly so PSA is not safe either to by from it would be like buying from Hendrix is there any safe place to buy I guess what I'm getting at is if Hendirx all items are fake and PSA is not passing the good ones then who is really a good Expert??? Also I found out as well one of HENDRIX FORGERIES A SIGNED CHECK WAS passed as Likely Genuine by P.A.S.S. As well

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 7:55pm

No not exactly.   PSA/DNA is an authentication service, not like Hendrix who is a known seller of forgeries.  However sometimes something bad will get through the good authenticators (rarely) but it does happen.  This is with any authentication service or authenticator.  They are not foolproof as its an "opinion" of a human being.

If you want to find something decent, you can always ask here (create a new discussion) before you buy and hopefully we'll all come to the same conclusion good or bad :)  We have some really good collectors on the forum that know their stuff on different signers, and they'll try to weigh in and help if you are looking at ones you want to buy. 

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on November 27, 2016 at 8:44am

This (p22) ex-ebay white '2002' fabric 'fedora' is now on offer at Christiana auctions, Lot 200 on 15 Dec 16 starting at $500.

I wonder which 'MJ former friend' the fake LOA is supposed to be from...

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/48862492_michael-jackson-signe...

Lot 0200 Details

A fedora signed by Michael Jackson

Signed Love MJ 2002

Issued with a LOA from Michael Jackson's former friend

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 8:14pm

Another auction by signndrive ending soon.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-Autograph-Letterhead...

Starting price 45.00

Very rare item up for auction signed by Michael Jackson pop icon on the Letterhead this is very rare item please bid with confidence. Please compare the autographs there's no Coa item was obtained at a house auction in 2000

Also another new "straw like" fedora http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Signed-Autograph-White-Fedo...

King Of Pop autographed white fedora hat by Michael Jackson signed with black ink comes with LOA letter of authenticity from his manager this item was obtained in 2000 at a house auction

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 27, 2016 at 11:01am

Joseph Vitalik Hendrix latest forgeries

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291829319993

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/291829505684

Now lets compare this to one of MJ's real pieces.  The likeness is astounding! 

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Permalink Reply by Tom Wilson on July 30, 2016 at 8:58pm

Ok so I saw this item on eBay with Coa wanted to get info on the item and Coa is it legit ??

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 31, 2016 at 2:56am

No, this is a piece by Erick McKay, had not seen this one of his before, but its his work. 

Please start new discussions Tom on items that are not from this seller, I don't want this discussion to go off onto another forger. 

With that said however, since I recognize the forger, if you would like to add it to this discussion http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/lot-of-michael-jacks... , that is a thread devoted entirely to Erick's forgeries.  Please add a link where you found it as well if you could.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Wilson on July 31, 2016 at 8:26am

So the Coa is fake?

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