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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 2:07am

Ur telling me it’s fake, I’m saying it’s real nd honestly believe it is,  the fakes out the of drawings are obvious

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 7, 2018 at 2:17am

This is what I mean. You don't understand. I have not said it is fake or genuine. That is your job - to prove it is real if you are going to make the claim. Double authenticated by WHO? Posh Pawn is meaningless and you have heard what was said here about that authenticatior. Aftal - someone else told you that is meaningless aas well (I agree). What is YOUR proof? SHOW US.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 7, 2018 at 6:18am

Your Michael Jackson signed Charlie Chaplin sketch is definitely not real in my opinion. It’s a well-known forgery style. 

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 7:44am

Oh really Thanks for your opinion, I disagree 

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 7:55am

Oh really Thanks for your opinion, I disagree, it’s been approved

A well known forgery style?? The signature Doesn’t look anything like the shabby fakes that have been uploaded. I sold this for £2500 last year To a dealer in the us.

but I guess I must be selling fakes in your opinion 

 

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 1:55am

Ii respect that, but I don’t think it’s right people can upload my personal collection online and claim there fake. It’s a big statement 

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 1:59am

Charlie Chaplin 

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 2:31am

Ur in us, here in UK aftal is against fraud and fakes, he’s the leading man her for authentication, I’ve seen him on the news for god sake been going to him years He also got an opinion from a mj expert with 25 yrs experience on mid hand writing who’s well know and retired now, he’s well respected here maybe not new you’re where ur from and I also have a Coa from michaels production team, what more do you want or need lol, good enough for me

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 7, 2018 at 2:55am

How do you know that your unsigned undated cert is genuine? Many have been shown that are not. Have you read this thread through? I am not hating on your signature. You say you have absolute certainty it is genuine, I simply ask you to share this information and proof, since you are making the claim.  

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 2:35am

psa and all the rest of them are just opinions like your self, I trust my guy, why would Michael Jackson company produce and give fake drawings out??? The drawings I have are unique and original it’s shame ur hateing on them for some reason

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 7, 2018 at 2:42am

Yes, I have heard rumors of AFTAL.

Of course I know of it. If it is unique how did we just see another version posted earlier just today? If TV shows, AFTAL and authenticators with the reputation we have seen mentioned here are enough for you well, there is not much more one can say.  

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Permalink Reply by Ryan paul on March 7, 2018 at 3:10am

Unique being real, my bambi is totally more detailed then the fake one put up yesterday,

point is is I saw Michael Jackson on the same day I brought it leavening same building etc nearly 20 yrs ago, it’s not a fake that has came on the scene in the last five years, u can believe me or not doesn’t reall make a difference to me

The charlie chapling is a beautiful example of mj signature. 

Basicly ur saying cos I didn’t see it drawn myself I can never be 100% sure well that would go for any autograph out there,

i have enough evidence to put to put my mind at eas 

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