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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 5:39pm

Here is one of the MJ drawings with a Roger Epperson coa. So is everyone saying Roger is wrong?

David@simonparrsauctionsltd.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 5:47pm

MJ coa.

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Permalink Reply by Prashant Kaushik on September 23, 2015 at 6:07pm

Simon,

I registered because one of the autographs (non drawing) I felt was authentic.  However, I reassure you that everyone of those signed drawings you have are forged...without a doubt...100%.   Some of them were attempted to be sold at GOTTA HAVE IT Auctions in New York during their December 2014 auction.  Not a single one was sold and yet now you have some of these very ones offered in your auction?  Roger Epperson was duped with some falsified information that led him to believe that these drawings/signatures were authentic.  I have seen photos that shows over 200+ of these signed drawings and by the same hand...you have a Minnie Mouse one up for auction.  I was offered that for nearly $30K a few months ago and now it is only for 500 GBP?  YOu may not be responsible because of what UK laws say but that shady person who consigned it knows full well how fake these are!  If you are in good conscious, you will take them all down.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 6:15pm

Hi Prashant,

Which autograph was this? We have a few items certified by Roger Epperson and PSA/DNA of Michael Jackson. A photo of MJ as a king on a throne (RR auctions/PSA/Epperson), Say, Say, Say signed lp from MJ (Epperson), to name a few. Oh and a yellow Jersey MJ signed photo that is pre-certified by Epperson. Please send us the email on the Minnie Mouse.

Regards,

David@simonparrsauctionsltd.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 6:20pm

Hi Pharsant,

The starting prices on MJ drawings are at 500gbp and 600gbp, these aren't the reserves. If items are fake then I don't understand how Roger Epperson could be duped as if you are authenticate you don't listen to a story (That's why many items we have we don't list stories as we want proof the story is real), you actually look at the signature, style of drawing etc. It's like saying Prince Charles owned them so they must be real or something without any proof. 

I think the best thing for you to do is if you want an item ask what coa's come with them, we have quite a nice collection: A Grace Kelly PSA/DNA RR auctions item, Russell Crowe again PSA/DNA, Buzz Aldrin Gary King AFTAL, top of my head.

Regards,

David@simonparrsauctionsltd.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 23, 2015 at 9:18pm

Right? 

David do you have COA'S on the drawings you consigned that are being discussed here? 

Did you ever receive a photo as proof of these items being legit such as this one?

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Permalink Reply by Prashant Kaushik on September 23, 2015 at 9:23pm

As Wascher has displayed...this was the photo used to help convince Roger all these drawings are supposedly legit which is not. This is not Corey Feldman which he has denied. Just look at all those drawings. Look how familiar in nature to signature style they are to some of the ones in your auction...as i said there are over 200 of these flooding the market.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 24, 2015 at 9:36am

Yes I've seen this picture on live autograph. But if you are telling me Roger Epperson didn't authenticate based PURELY on just looking at the signatures then everyone needs to doubt every certificate he has ever issued. As I've said you don't listen to someone's story where something came from, you look at the autograph. And if it was actually Corey then who says Corey wasn't lying, so no one should take the word of a famous person. Many people around celebrities lie how they obtained things. Just look at how many things the Memphis Mafia owned. They sell a lot on the market, and some people will believe it or not. SO IF SOMEONE LISTENS TO A BS STORY AND NOT THE SIGNATURE THEN I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE TO AUTHENTICATE. 

I for one will believe Roger looked at the signatures and determined they were genuine.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 5:46pm

We have over 200 signed Bert Stern signed items in auction. So not everyone wants to consign to the big auction houses cause it takes them a long time to get the items in the auction, then in general if your item is worth $3000, they start at $1500 and give you a reserve of $1500. So you take the chance that your piece may sell for $4000 but it may only attract one bid at $1500. We also don't charge any commission for unsold lots, where Heritage charge and Bonhams charge and most auctions do. 

If you wish to consign YOUR MJ drawings that you think will go mega high then we'd love to hear from you. We sold some for over £2000, but like anything the more out there, the lower the value.

in 2009 Juliens got $30,000 for a MJ performance worn fedora, but last year David Guest only got £3,500 for a perfomance worn fedora, and profiles in history have got just a bid at the moment of $3,500. 

Why some customers come to us is the hard work we put in, and good customer service.  Try consigning items to some of the big auction houses, they just ignore you for weeks etc etc, cause they have that much already consigned. So that answers that.

Regarding a lot of them drawn in crayons and markers, a lot of MJ's with Brett Livingstone Strong are very similar too in his hangar. 

David@simonparrsauctionsltd.

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Permalink Reply by Prashant Kaushik on September 23, 2015 at 6:30pm

This was the autograph I was referencing to:

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/michael-jackson-signed-and-in...

I cannot get into exact details on how Roger was led to believe these drawings were real but I can assure you it was methodically planned out and executed including fake photos and forged COAs.  I reassure you that these drawings are fake and if you are a person who describes himself with 'hard work we put in, and good customer service' you will in good conscious pull them down so no more people are victimized by what is a flooded market of fake MJ memorabilia.

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Permalink Reply by simon parr on September 23, 2015 at 7:13pm

Hi Prashant,

I am spending my own sleep time replying to you, as Simon told me to make a comment for him on here. We make enough money to chuck out consigners we don't want or trouble maker customers but when we have PSA/DNA and Epperson coa's for drawings etc then we are gonna side with those people. The Michael Jackson t shirt: This came from Bonhams, you can check this out line. Make an offer and I'll talk to Simon.

David@simonparrsauctionsltd.

P.S. We are grateful to be having a civil conversation and putting our views across. We like the fun comments made on here, and we respect what Lizzie is doing here, but sometimes I think when we've pointed out 8 auction houses that have listed MJ items that would be listed as suspect on here. Then the focus should be on other things. Why don't you all band together and only sell only PSA/DNA items. Do you know not one auction house does this. RR auctions do (But they get accused of back handers for their coa's). It's all a sad state of affairs autograph hunting. And I personally think it's pathetic. PEOPLE ARE STARVING IN THE WORLD AND PEOPLE BUY EXPENSIVE PAINTINGS, OR EXPENSIVE AUTOGRAPHS. What a waste. Simon doesn't care I have these views as the whole lot is pathetic. Do some good, sell your autographs and do a BOB Geldolf for the world.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on September 23, 2015 at 7:59pm

May I ask if you would accept this set of Jimi Hendrix Experience signatures on consignment? Two LOAs and a COA are pictured. Other Hendrix signatures contained in the book from which it originates have been offered by some of the same auction houses that you've mentioned.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351513598337

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