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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 2, 2015 at 5:46am

the same repeated error - like a cookie cutter would make the same glitch if it was shaped a certain way

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 2, 2015 at 5:59am

I like the word "template."

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 2, 2015 at 6:50am

good word :)

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 2, 2015 at 6:53am

Correct word for some of what is going on.

Permalink Reply by Bjorn VDB on January 1, 2015 at 10:00pm

I think I wasn't clear enough. My remark "this is getting somewhat out of hand" refers to this forum in general, not to your remarks here in this MJ thread Washer. I just put it here as a side remark. I'm no expert at all but looks like you've putting a lot of effort in and doing a great job.
I'm not looking to every thread in detail but if I'm not mistaken as for the pink Floyd problem: someone bought it for 10k with a COA from Roger and it didn't pass PSA? Guess I would ask my money back too, even if I know Roger is better than PSA in music. But that's another thread so let's go on with the drawings here :-).

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on January 1, 2015 at 5:56pm

Yeah cause PSA is so good with authenticating music items. This thread is not about Pink Floyd though.

But just to reply to it. If Roger doesn't except PSA opinions on his music items why should anybody else? Roger stating PSA not good enough to authenticate Zeppelin sigs speaks volumes to me. I'm betting it wouldn't have mattered who PSA would opinion on.

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Permalink Reply by Bjorn VDB on January 1, 2015 at 10:45pm

Edit: come to think of it, my remark wasn't that appropriate for this thread. , I'd better put in in the Floyd one. Blame it on the new years booze: -). Keep up the good work Wascher, will be interesting to see how this turns out!

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 2, 2015 at 12:32pm

I didn't have a whole lot of time to do much today on this, but I did a quick comparison on the Mich portion of Michaels name on the drawings vs the notes that are to "Bob" in past and current Mem Vault Auctions

I labeled the pictures best I could and then screen captured right from my files.  Hopefully you can read the the labeled "BOBs" (you may have to enlarge it to see it - by just clicking it)  

Now the pics of the Bob notes used in the above comparisons in full.  No i's again, directly into c's etc.

They did change up the entire part of Jackson to possibly create the visual look of another era (?) like they did earlier with one set of drawings having a curvy J, and one set having a straight J.  They add an S swirl through the J, and also add a k in Jackson)  But the same error is on all of them.  No i or the down swing wonky type i.

wascher

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 2, 2015 at 3:14pm

Wascher,

I have been putting in lots of hours and have contacted several different experts and members of The Jackson Estate to try to resolve this mystery.

I think you have done an outstanding job and I think you are correct on many of your points.

There is much more to all of this and I think that bits and pieces are being leaked out prior to a complete professional explanation, and statements by The Jackson Family, Corey Feldman, Brett Livingston and law enforcement.

I like your "i" chart but there are many other things to look at,  I do have many pieces of art that has been submitted  that has not been posted that do have "i" s ..   I keep looking at the M, the H, and the signature ending in Michael Jackson.

I have returned from New York City were I have meet with a photoshop expert, and other key figures that will be helpful with the answers to some important questions.

A couple of years back I was sent these exemplars of Michael Jackson autographs that were highly suspect and questioned when you were able to examine 5 or 10 at a time.  It turned out that the passes were not even authentic.  Grant may be able to help to locate where the other 96 are being kept.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 3, 2015 at 5:55am

Hi Mike,
I brought these up because two of them were just added to Mem Vaults latest auction (just listed in the last week). If they aren't any good, it would certainly be nice if they were pulled before another person gets something that might not be any good, or until it can be determined if they are bad or not.

As far as other types of MJ signatures (like the ones with i's), I did look at one of those just a few days ago http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/michael-jackson-draw... --and was able to date the timeframe in which it would have had to been drawn.

I know there is more than one style going on here---that's very obvious.

-w

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 3, 2015 at 2:31pm

Mike, are these emails referring to the drawings, or the passes? I am assuming it is the passes.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 3, 2015 at 2:48pm

Can I ask what this has to do with this discussion Mike?   I don't believe these passes look ANY thing like the signatures that are being discussed from the artwork that originally started this thread.  Not even the ones with the i's--not even remotely close.

w

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