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Permalink Reply by Samuel John Clifford on September 2, 2017 at 10:40pm

They have a couple of "Runaways" signed items and they're trash. Not even close.

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on September 3, 2017 at 12:03am

The U2 autographs are garbage! And the same goes for the Springsteen and Guns N Roses items too...

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 3, 2017 at 1:11am

Here's one of their Michael "Jaksuls".  The person that signs these has sold them for years on ioffer. 

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Permalink Reply by Jose Alberto on September 3, 2017 at 11:19am

Correct.
These are all signed by the same person and not Michael.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 3, 2017 at 5:38am

Out of Las Vegas...what a surprise.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on September 3, 2017 at 5:41am

These are hilarious. 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on September 3, 2017 at 5:49am

This is a good example of a company where you probably don't even need a specific knowledge on any of the signatures to know they're peddling garbage. Just a basic competency in the world of autographs will do.

But I looked up U2 first, and of course, they're selling pick guards for $75 and LPs for under $150. Signed by the entire band.

These really look like the junk you'd find a comic con stands. In fact, I'm almost certain I've seen this forgers work at Wizard World shows (and beyond). 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on September 3, 2017 at 5:50am

I like how they think rotating the pen colors helps.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on September 3, 2017 at 10:04am

Yes Rich you sent me pics of the Jaksuls from some con's already.  My guess is they are getting the things on ioffer and peddling.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 3, 2017 at 11:30am

I imagine they're going direct to the source and not buying on iOffer.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 3, 2017 at 6:01am

This is the "authentication" service they use:

http://autographsauthenticationservices.com/story/

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 3, 2017 at 6:23am

How "they (Autographsauthenticationservices)" do it:

HOW WE DO IT

AAS’s experts work as a team to compare and evaluate every item
submitted using a distinct and comprehensive system of technology to
determine the validity of every autograph(s) or handwriting set.
The Staff at Autographs Authentication Service are exceptionally versed
in recognizing the many different variations and the evolution of a
person’s handwriting and are able to easily identify forged handwriting,
autopens, secretarial copies, stamped signatures, and other facsimile
versions of a person’s hand-written documentation.

Prior to forming AAS, our specialists were previously employed by firms,
and the government as forensic handwriting experts trained by the
police to witnesses their finding of fact and conclusion for civil and
criminal prosecutions.

Our experts were graduates of a program offering the basics of training
in handwriting analysis and document examination and through a
2 year course of workshops and projects they learned the basis of
handwriting identification, including principles and theories accepted
by document examiners worldwide. This police program was
instituted jointly with Interpol and local police, so our professionals are
worldwide accredited.

A major part of the Interpol and police initiative was to analyze the
primary features of handwriting, and make known more complex
writing components, such as movement, line quality and the rhythms
of writing. Essentially every aspect of the document is subject to
question, and complete analysis.

Another phase of the program in signature evaluation taught the
graduates to look at specific attributes of counterfeiting and its
common nuances. AAS’s experts rate paper types, and common ink
grades used in the last 50 years, and distinctly know and understand
the aging process of handwriting, and the distortion of ink quality.
Specific guidelines facilitate the tasks of handwriting evaluation and
complete document analysis. The procedures facilitate worksheets
and make use of thousands upon thousands of comparison charts for
handwriting identification classes and types for complete document
understanding.

AAS evaluators studied the history of counterfeiting and lots of detailed
material from past court cases and letters of opinion from the courts
regarding the testimony and its usefulness in all levels of government
cases from civil litigation to criminal prosecutions. This extensive
program was aimed at training AAS experts to correctly detect any
signs of falsehood, or counterfeit handwriting whereby people fake
another person’s handwriting for profit, or criminal endeavors.

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