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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on March 21, 2014 at 5:57pm

The Bob Dylan song lyrics that went last night on RR auction for over 200K was pretty impressive as well

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Permalink Reply by stephen aronson on March 21, 2014 at 6:29pm

Hard to believe that the signed album went for $6200 when in january 2014 in the RR auction a nice signed framed photo cut went for $572.  Prices really going crazy out there!

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on March 21, 2014 at 6:47pm

True. A couple of other Dylan signed LPs from Mike Wehrmann each sold for about $2K less than a year ago. Has the value of his autograph tripled in less than a year? Regardless, I would say that Dylan is probably the most expensive. If you're looking at price versus supply, it could be Paul McCartney.

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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on March 21, 2014 at 7:33pm

I purchased one of the Wehrmann LPs. Good to see the prices going up. I was nervous lol...

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Permalink Reply by stephen aronson on March 21, 2014 at 7:45pm

Xwiesy, purely from a financial perspective (ie if you were doing it for an investment), probably a good time to sell!  

I appreciate that dylan is a cult figure and very significant in the history of rock and roll and the 1960's protest movement.  However, i am still blown away by these prices for a 70 year old guy.  I get it with a Jimmi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper etc, huge stars that died in their early 20's. I even get the expense of elvis, who died relatively young.  Meanwhile, you can buy a very nice elvis authenticated by RR/Roger in the 2,000 range (prices are up pretty significantly on authentic Elvis signatures as well, at least when they are rock solid like those that Roger has signed off on) and Dylan is three times that?  Again, i understand that Dylan has not signed hundreds or thousands of items for Upper Deck, but is he really more popular and less accessible over the years by this degree than say Mick Jagger, who is about the same age and sells for in the 1,000 range?

Value is always in the eye of the beholder, but from a purely financial perspective, i am highly suspect as to Bob Dylan's long term staying power as the baby boomers age.  Said another way, how many 10 year olds today know bob dylan, compared to say elvis.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on March 21, 2014 at 8:26pm

I think luck played a big part in the selling price of the Dylan LP. There either happened to be two bidders who were both willing to pay well over market value, or someone set a very high straight bid for some reason. How do you explain the price of the Hendrix signature (plus Mitch and a few others) that sold for $20K? You can easily get a very nice Hendrix autograph on eBay for less than a third of that price. 

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on March 21, 2014 at 9:21pm

Bob Dylan is one of the most influential musicians of all time, who has had a "profound impact on popular music and American culture, marked by lyrical compositions of extraordinary poetic power." His career has spanned more than six decades, but nonetheless quality memorabilia remains extremely rare due to his private nature. 

Bob Dylan has achieved what many musicians fail to do. He's stood the test of time, managing to stay relevant for six decades in the music business up till today.

I am glad I still have my Bob Dylan autograph!!! :D

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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on March 21, 2014 at 10:46pm

Stephen, thanks for the comments, all well taken.

Nobody is selling Elvis LP's for two grand. Roger has a 45 sleeve and an inscribed photo.

Vintage vinyl is a completely different animal, and the most desired of all pieces (some prefer guitars, I know).

Dylan is wholly aware of that difference and however Michael Wehrmann worked his magic to get these LPs signed is a thing of beauty, and the prices are going to reflect that. Mine has Roger's, Jeff Gold's and Wehrmann's names attached and that is worth something in this day of fakes, especially given the amount of ones involving Dylan.

You may be right, it could be time to sell high- for me, I'm just a fan and am thrilled with it regardless. My feeling is the rarity of authentic signatures will keep the prices up and the fact it's on an LP should keep ot pretty safe.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 22, 2014 at 2:11pm

IIn my opinion, the reason the Dylan prices won't hold up, is that the market for his signature is shrinking by the day. As those of us who highly regard his signature get older, the youth will not be seeking it like we do. Look at the value of the movie stars signatures from the mid 1950's. They are not nearly as sought after as they once were. I'm not saying this will happen to Dylan in the near future, but the time will come.

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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on March 22, 2014 at 5:32pm

Are Beatles albums getting cheaper?

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Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on March 22, 2014 at 5:33pm

Elvis albums can go for 15 grand...

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Permalink Reply by stephen aronson on March 22, 2014 at 5:42pm

beatles albums are certainly not getting cheaper, quite the contrary of course.

I agree completely with Steve Kahldon and that was the point i was trying to make. I was not trying to denegrate or diminish Dylan's contributions, only pointing out that fame (ie demand) is an important part of price, its not just supply, and i think that the recognition of his contributions is pretty much limited to a specific generation.  I dont think he is immortal like elvis for example.  Thus, my point about whether ten year olds know who dylan is.

Not being a music autograph focused person (i do a lot more historical and sports than music, my music autographs are pretty much limited to elvis, berry gordy and louis armstrong (and i guess you could include edison, since he invented the phonograph), i am sure i underestimated the difference in price between a clean signature and an autographed album.

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