Hey all, this is my first post and I figured I'd ask for your expertise. I found this signed Sharon Tate framed picture on eBay. Here is the link.
I am wondering about it's authenticity. I contacted the seller and they said it was from the estate of a film director names Alexander Petrovic and he bought it in San Fran. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I haven’t spent a great deal of time on her signature, but this looks quite bad to me.
I appreciate your response, thank you!
I would steer clear of offerings from this seller. Seller has another Sharon Tate for auction too (what a coincidence) which is also fake, imo. The red ink is in very poor taste.
Three "Tate's" all together now.
Thanks for this. As an amateur, I have no idea so I appreciate your expertise!
Only other thing to point out that is a hard fact is that his items routinely sell for far than autthentic examples. That Bowie, if authentic, would be over $400. It sold for $121.
It's understandable to be suspicious that something is too good to be true. But things do fall through the cracks. And one shouldn't be so paranoid, suspicious and scared to take a chance if you can afford it. What's the worst that can happen? If it gives you pleasure and you enjoy it, then it serves it's purpose. By all means do your diligence, but remember that autographs have always come under a plethora of different circumstances.
It might be an unpopular opinion, but I think authentication services are of limited value. Yes, for modern stuff with big names who are alive or were alive in the last decade or so there are criteria for hat can be useful.
But for older stuff, especially signatures from a century ago to the seventies or so there was no hobby industry or internet. Autographs were mostly acquired in person, by mail or various contacts. Much simpler times. And there was little money involved. So the hobby was one of trust as well as common sense.
As a collector for over fifty years I can't abide the paranoia I see. Why even bother if every signature literally has to be examined forensically? And even then, is there really certainty?
As an experiment I took some autographs I obtained in person (some even with pictures) to get 'authenticated.' and the opinions were mixed. Common sense says that everyone has variations in signatures. Especially over time and because of circumstances. And even the mood of the signee. Check your own signatures over decades.is every letter always identical?
I'm not being dismissive or cavalier, because I know that there are people who try to make a fast buck with forgeries. But use common sense, make a decision and enjoy it if you do buy it. Even million dollar art forgeries were enjoyed till they suddenly weren't. Art and autographs are cultural symbols. You use your imagination to create a story around them. Enjoy your story and trust your judgement.
Thank you for your reply! I still wanted to get it but now who knows!
You said to Janna:
"I'm not being dismissive or cavalier, because I know that there are people who try to make a fast buck with forgeries. But use common sense, make a decision and enjoy it if you do buy it. Even million dollar art forgeries were enjoyed till they suddenly weren't. Art and autographs are cultural symbols. You use your imagination to create a story around them. Enjoy your story and trust your judgement."
Your advice to Janna is very similar to the advice that long-time forgery dealers and galleries give. It's a confidence game. If that's your autograph philosophy please take a fresh look and reconsider it. And don't sell any autographs you didn't get in-person until you're sure they're real through objective evidence.
Anyone who knowingly sells a forgery is a thief, a fraudster, a criminal. Anytime someone buys from one of those knowing criminals, knowingly or unwittingly, they're encouraging them to try to sell more forgeries.
Thanks for your advice, Steve. I definitely learned a lot on here today. Not buying it for sure. Appreciate you all.
Steve, +1 well said.
Agreed, well said Steve. As you say, only forgers would refuse to accept things are fake and like a snake oil salesman try to deceive some more