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Permalink Reply by Damats on February 17, 2019 at 11:50am

the coa from antiquities has a 100% money back if they are proven to be fake.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 12:05pm

Authentications are almost always issued as opinions. Even if the authenticator is 100% sure an autograph is fake, they are going to state it as their opinion. 

If the guarantee of authenticity says it has to be proven to be a forgery, the seller is typically going to try to hang their hat on that, that the other authenticator only said it was their opinion, to deny you a refund.

Antiquities has told people that their guarantee means that their authenticator will go to court and testify that the autographs are real. 

The way I read that, they’re saying that if you sue them, they guarantee that their authenticator will testify against you.

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Permalink Reply by Damats on February 17, 2019 at 12:17pm

Bruce, the coa from antiquities has a 100% money back guarantee if they are proven to be fake.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 17, 2019 at 1:20pm

Problem is they don’t except any proof that over rides the forensic document examiner frauds they use. Antiquities does not accept any TPA to include Beckett or PSA. 

They will never voluntarily refund yours or anyone else’s money.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 12:41pm

This is the actual image of Louise Harrison's "Meet the Beatles" album posted by Sotheby's in their online auction catalog.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/rock-roll-histo...

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on February 17, 2019 at 12:52pm

I THINK she got $115,000 for the album...

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on February 17, 2019 at 1:06pm

Yes, it sold through It's Only Rock and Roll for $115,228.82.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 1:24pm

It was consigned to Sotheby's June 24, 2014 sale. Did it sell?

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on February 17, 2019 at 1:28pm

I don't know what happened with it in that auction.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 1:34pm

Jeff Mast owned it at one time. I don't know if he bought it from It's Only Rock n Roll or not. He interviewed Louise Harrison regarding it in about 2011-12 as I recall.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 4:36pm

I just asked Jeff Mast: He didn't own it. He owned Dr. Gordon's "Thanks for the jabs" signed MTB, and he interviewed Louise Harrison regarding it. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2019 at 4:36pm

Just checked: it didn't sell in the 2014 sale.

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