It's been 5 years since we published our first Band-Signed Beatles Album Census.
It's time to update it!
A history of full-band-signed Beatles album prices would be hugely helpful to the marketplace as well, going back as far as we can, so let's build that, too. Not just from auctions, but reports from collectors and dealers who have sold them.
For starters, please read the 2011 Census, which had a few years of updating and other input added by collectors and dealers.
Add your research and commentary to this discussion for now, and as we get more data, we'll post two separate discussions to fine tune it. Once we feel comfortable with the information we have and what we have determined, we'll publish reports that will help collectors and dealers worldwide make better educated decisions on Beatles album sales and purchases.
These are the results of the 2011 census:
US Release Band-Signed Beatles Albums
0 “Introducing the Beatles” [Added to list on Sept. 16, 2019]
6-7 “Meet the Beatles”
1 “Beatles 65”
1 “Beatles VI”
0 “Rubber Soul”
0 “Magical Mystery Tour”
0 “Abbey Road” +1 offered by Autographs for Sale on eBay starting Mar. 16, 2019
0 “Yellow Submarine”
1 “White Album” +1 sold by Tracks in Nov/Dec 2013 for $186,000; +1 more signed for the same person who got the other 2 signed (added 3/13/19)
1 “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”
0 “Let it Be”
17 US Albums Known
UK Release Band-Signed Beatles Albums
Roughly 75 “Please Please Me” (Their first album, signed in three 1963 UK promotional tours)
16-21 “With the Beatles” (The tail end of their easier accessibility) [Editor's Note: 1 since April 2011 added.]
8-10 “Hard Day’s Night”
3 “Beatles for Sale”
1 “Rubber Soul” +1
5 “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” +1 sold by Bonhams on June 30, 2016
0 “Magical Mystery Tour” (All reissues from the 1980s and up.)
0 “White Album”
0 “Yellow Submarine”
2 “Abbey Road”
0 “Let it Be”
Roughly 113-120 UK Albums Known (38-45 plus roughly 75 “Please Please Me” albums)
Let's do it!
I am not confident on the Lennon. If it was 100%, it would be worth much more than 100k. The only legit ones are from apple scruffs from what I’ve seen. That Lennon looks too perfect.
Ryan, I like that you're making your own decision and sharing your points and concerns. Discussion and debate are important!
Price-wise, the George and the Ringo are likely part of the reason the seller priced it where they have.
It’s amazing what still turns up after all these years. Can you imagine if the George and Ringo signatures were as nice as the other two?
That's certainly something.
If Caiazzo says it's good, that's good enough for me. However, I have some questions in my head -
Why is it so relatively cheap? The rushed George and Ringo wouldn't bring it down by that much.
The seller says it's authenticated by Tracks, but there's no letter from them.
Do I trust a seller who spells it 'Ciazzio' and 'Sargent Pepper'?
"Relatively" cheap probably because the signatures do not date from the period of the release of the album. Personnaly, I would prefer a signed album with signatures dating from the release rather than signatures obtained latter, individually. Even if this is an album with more signed copies known to exist.
I'd be concerned if the Abbey Road had period autographs. Period 1969 band-signed items are RARE, even on a sheet of paper. The Beatles weren't getting along well by then. The autographs on the Abbey Road make sense to me.
If the Abbey Road had period autographs with a Caiazzo or Tracks'COA, I would not be concerned.
To illustrate my previsous comment, I would prefer a Sgt. Pepper's fully signed in 1967 for 65k$ (as sold yerstedy by HA) rather than an Abbey Road fully signed in the 80s' for 90k$... :-)
Very cool, Tommy. Thanks
The eBay Abbey Road seems to have disappeared, at least when using the link further up this thread. Did anyone save an image that they can post here?