Authenticity is Everything
The Signed Beatles Collection From Brian Epstein's Assistant
Just announced from Analogr…
https://analogr.com/l/the-signed-beatles-collection-from-brian-epst...
The description is a little weird. Including the one Hits EP with a 00s (best guess) signature style.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Saunders on
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I’m not a fan. Is it just me?
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Permalink Reply by JR DONKIN To Mark Saunders on
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Nope, I feel the same. Something a bit weird about it.
The story of the collection being in other hands for 30 years too… fishy.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo To JR DONKIN on
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Agreed. In a safe...
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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 To JR DONKIN on
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It’s more than a bit weird. Ringo Sterr and John Lemno?
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Why not just authenticate (with known specialists), maximize returns and put people at some ease?
These Terns are lengthy but interesting:
"You acknowledge and agree that ANALOGr’s authentication process is proprietary, confidential, in-house and independent. "
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The following may be a single sentence - I kept getting lost.
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Also, the Authenticator giving a only mentions one of the records…
‘Given the history mentioned above and my experience of collecting , selling, and authenticating the Beatles autographs for the past 40 + years, including publishing a Beatles autograph study viewed worldwide and publishing books on The Beatles , the signed A Hard Days Night EP is authentic and a true piece of Beatles history
- Tom Fontaine’
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Yes, I missed that. Interesting point. The name is starting to ring bells, but I was thinking of someone like Cox. Is Fontaine as well regarded?
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Permalink Reply by fab432 To Eric Keith Longo on
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Tom Fontaine is/was a major Beatles collector and had one of the best collections around. I believe he partnered with analogr to sell his collection last year. I bought several high end Badfinger items from him and they were all legit. He definitely knows his stuff and would be pretty decent with the Beatles autographs. Assuming Paul James was who the description says he was the autographs could be legit. However at first glance they all seem to have something odd about them. If they were signed at NEMS offices I would expect better placement and perhaps better overall formation. Hmmm
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I believe these are all FAKE & a made up Story 'knowing the person at Nems died in 2019?
The position of the Twist & shout & 1965 flexi signatures are all in one hand for sure.
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Permalink Reply by spaceman To james conger on
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My thoughts as well. Too many questions hanging over these.
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I wonder if these signatures have been copied from other items and transferred onto these record jackets. They all seem odd to me and I’m not buying the story. If these were real Tracks would be all over them. I did notice on the web site that there are 3 bids on them but the bid amount was not displayed.
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Take a look at the John and Ringo signatures on the AHDN and The Third Christmas Record. Both of the respective signatures appear to have the same unusual traits.
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