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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 5, 2017 at 3:31pm

Here they are revealed a bit more. There is very little there:

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 5, 2017 at 3:38pm

Hello,

Well. I will try to answer. From the images, if they are genuine or not is secondary in that they are not visible. Of course, being genuine is the first priority but if I grant that, they still appear of very poor contrast.

You don't think they look "real" or you don't know what they should look like at all.

You can't see them without special effects.

They don't seem discounted for being "C-" material or "D" - they have just about terminal contrast.

That leaves you buying poorly looking material based on a sticker. I say PASS. Do some research into pricing and see how these line up. I could never, ever sell anything like this - I would feel awful

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 5, 2017 at 4:04pm

Okay, again thanks to all that replied to this. I will look forward to any more opinions and advice that comes my way. I hate to say this, but based on everyone's opinion's here, I might have to pass on these. As was previously mentioned, even if they are legit, the signatures are very hard to make out, in poor quality and location on the poster, and I haven't the slightest clue what they should the signatures should look like. Thanks again everyone. You have all been extremely helpful.

I will look forward to more opinions/advice as it will further help educate me on the whole authenticity process and help me become an educated collector.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 5, 2017 at 5:15pm

Here are some solid in-person collectors/sellers selling Leo - generally in the realm of $150 or lower. Of these, it looks like only Toppix has one from The Revenant (and poor contrast at that).

http://www.all-autographes.com/boutique_us/recherche_resultats.cfm?...

http://www.toppixautographs.com/actorsa.html

http://www.hollywood-autographs.com/index.php?route=product/search&...

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on January 5, 2017 at 5:41pm

Looks like he has a terrible autograph these days. It used to be more legible but I guess in the last few years it is more like a squiggle.

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 5, 2017 at 7:30pm

Yea his signature is god awful now. You can't even make it out now.

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 5, 2017 at 7:29pm

Jesus, with how sloppy his signature is/has gotten, I'm now beginning to think that the signatures on the posters are legit based on what I'm seeing in the links you sent me.

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 6, 2017 at 6:52am

Hey Rich, how legit of a site is all-autographes.com? I'm really eyeing the DiCaprio+Scorsese photo. I'm just worried about it since there isn't any COA that comes with it.  

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Permalink Reply by Samuel John Clifford on January 6, 2017 at 7:06am

I don't know their autographs that well, but I don't see anything wrong with their Jessica Alba's, Cherie Currie's, Lita Ford's, Gwen Stefani's or their Chirstoph Waltz's.

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 6, 2017 at 7:28am

After doing some research the past couple of day's the autographs above look really legit to me and are clearly visible. I've listed throughout this discussion links to the inconsistency of Leo's signature (some literally look like a scribble) and how he has a habit of signing autographs in dark areas. Thank god the person that got this autograph used a legit pen that makes both signatures visible. 

Thanks for your input it's greatly appreciated. As mentioned before you guys are a huge help to me in this whole education process.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 6, 2017 at 7:40am

I was actually very recently made aware of them. They've gotten a few recommendations on this site, and I see why. His inventory looks good and he appears to be a reputable in-person collector/dealer. I'll spot check a few of the more solid sources I can think of. 

COAs are generally worthless for authenticity alone. For resale purpose, it might be a different story, but that's only if you have a COA from a well-known company - it packs more of a a punch in sports collecting, which is more dominated by these companies than other celebs. PSA of JSA stickers make more of a difference to less knowledgeable collectors - or people who don't really care about the authenticity and just want to be able to resell it. The fact of the matter is that JSA and PSA screw up quite a bit, and their focus on profits sometimes undermines their accuracy. That's about the nicest way I can put it. In short, if you have to have an autograph that is extremely difficult or near impossible to authenticate on the basis of the signature alone, the next best thing you can do is buy from a reputable in-person collector. At least you know the source, and often the signing details. With PSA, this info is generally erased.

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Permalink Reply by Jjjjjjjj on January 6, 2017 at 7:57am

Dude if you could spot check a few more solid sources and get back to me that would be great. I also emailed this guy about his auto'd DiCaprio and Scorsese photo and waiting to hear back from him. The signatures definitely look legit but as we all know on, here we can never be too sure. Thanks so much.

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