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Is this Lennon's autograph 1976?

hey guys,

here is another John Lennon's autograph. the owner claims that he met Lennon in NYC in 1976. i'm very curious... what are the chances that this is true???

thank you!
Tom

Tags: autograph, beatles, john, lennon, signature

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Permalink Reply by Paul on July 25, 2017 at 6:30pm

Lennon's always a difficult buy, definitely not an autograph that you want to um and ah about. I wouldn't buy the one in the original post. If you can its a benifit to buy a Lennon with solid provenance.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 26, 2017 at 2:15am

Not sure if this blog page was ever mentioned on this site but it may be of interest re John's 76 and 79 autographs.

http://www.meetthebeatlesforreal.com/2016/12/meeting-with-john-lenn...

I am also attaching what I am sure is a horrible fake of a late-period John up for auction in the UK today. As the estimate is only £200-300 I assume the auctioneer has his doubts but I find it terrible that it is even offered. At the moment it has 12 bids and the highest bid so far is £600.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on July 26, 2017 at 3:19am

Thats nasty.

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Mehl on July 26, 2017 at 7:18am

Please auction number or link to auction. Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 26, 2017 at 7:21am

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/chiswick-auct...

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 26, 2017 at 7:26am

Apparently sold for £1,200 before BP. One born every minute - including me on occasions!

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 26, 2017 at 7:51am

BRUTAL!!!

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 26, 2017 at 8:38am

I have to say that my own fifteen minutes of fame, when I blew around around £3,500 (+ £300 bespoke framing) on two sets of Beatles autographs that are almost certainly fakes (one is at very best a secretarial) were at least in the days before the internet and the items had been given the OK by someone who now runs a very respectable autograph auction company.

In addition to that, I did also buy some very nice material at that auction house (not Beatles) and I think the profit on some of those items would easily recoup the £3,500 I blew on junk.

These days there is really not much excuse for buying an item like the one that just sold.

Having said that, it is amazing that some people get "banged up" and lose their jobs for stealing a few pounds worth of goods from shops whereas other people can get away with selling fake autographs for hundreds or thousands of pounds by pleading ignorance or using the excuse of "buyers beware".

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 26, 2017 at 8:25am

I want to find out what kind of pen he used. The paper is aged but the autograph looks like it was signed yesterday!

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 26, 2017 at 8:38am

Probably was Steve...probably was...

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on July 26, 2017 at 8:57am

It's relatively new ink, compared to the given date of the storyline. If this is the period paper, the type and brand, that I think it is, which should only be confirmed in person, the ink will not soak into the fibers as much as others, it is a higher quality paper. Although completely dry to the touch (unless a very new signature), the ink will mostly remain on the surface, retaining more of its vibrant characteristics. Not so much the pen itself, storage will present just as significant a factor as the pen and ink used. In these cases, the ink betrays the forger's hand sometimes just as much as the signature's architecture.

Just look at all the dynamic changes during this signature. The way the pressure continually varies. Because this is fresh ink, the constant, changing variances in pressure, as the signature progresses, maybe 100 or more dynamic changes indicates that this signor is not used to signing John Lennon. This is not signed by someone who has written his own name 100,000+ times and does so effortlessly.

This is signed by someone who picked an exemplar to copy, practiced it for a day, or a week, no more than that, discarding God only knows how many blown attempts in the process, and settled on this one as his forged instrument.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 26, 2017 at 9:03am

...and walked away with around £900 for his or her efforts. The auction house also cashed in to the tune of £500 -£600 (£300 from the buyer and not much less from the seller). Not bad!