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Permalink Reply by terry ryan on November 23, 2017 at 8:25am

if he says it isnt signed by him return it via ebay dispute??  The ones i've seen never had his full signature like that which would immediately raise a flag for me.

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 8:34am

He says it's only his suspicion that it isn't genuine. But it was the newspaper that stated it was signed by MJF. My thinking is why would a national Scottish newspaper offer a fake prize in a competition? I can understand that not every single autograph comes with verification. Could be this lack of certification is what lead to this suspicion of his. Worst outcome for me is that I payed a little over the odds for a nice guitar & case. 

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Permalink Reply by Jim G on November 23, 2017 at 8:44am

It's possible that the newspaper didn't know any better.  However, my opinion is that this may be good.  You generally don't see the separation of "Michael" anymore, but to me there are so many things that are right, and the things that could be wrong (such as the separation) are so big that nobody trying to fake it would make those mistakes.  I say real... and worse case, you've got a cool guitar hopefully for a decent price.

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 9:01am

Thanks, Jim. I also thought it to be the genuine article. I'm no graphologist but as you said, a lot of it seems to be right. I really do hope so because it was MJF's performance in BTTF that made me want to play guitar back in '85 when I was 13.

A new Epiphone Dot & Epiphone hard case would cost about £450. I paid £500. Hopefully, his uncertainty works in my favour, although I feel it's a keeper, at least for a while.  :)

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Permalink Reply by michelle on November 23, 2017 at 9:09am

here is one recently sold with a psa certificate of authenticity

which scottish newspaper???  there are not that many scottish newspapers around.  If you can find out from the seller you can email the newspaper and ask them to search their archives

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 9:38am

Hi MIchelle,

He is trying to find the details, but it was 9 years ago. But, yes, can't be many Scottish newspapers! Hopefully an answer will surface. :)

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2017 at 10:02am

"...however, after payment he exressed an opinion that he suspected it wasn't actually signed by M J Fox, yet failed to mention this suspicion in his listing..."

I would have been out of there immediately at this point.

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 11:53am

I know, Eric! A big red light went off in my head too, but I'd already pulled the trigger & paid by then. I guess I can always raise a dispute if it turns out to be bogus. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2017 at 3:16pm

Based on the information in this thread I would start to return this. If the seller himself is telling you that he "suspects it wasn't actually signed", to my thinking, he has made the decision for you. 

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 4:37pm

I've spoken to him & he seems genuinely helpful & told me that his suspicions stem from the fact there were no authentification papers. I don't think he has been manipulative. He never bought the guitar, he won it, so I don't think the newspaper were under any obligation to provide any. That said, I feel like trying to source the provenance of the guitar through the newspaper's archives is the best next step to take, rather than act on a knee-jerk instinct to return it. I'd like to know if it's genuine or not before doing that to be honest. 

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on November 23, 2017 at 11:58am

Doesn't look like MJFs signature to me

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Permalink Reply by Sheldon Ireland on November 23, 2017 at 4:42pm

Hi A.B.

Care to elaborate on what leads you to think this? Any particular aspects that stand out for you? It seems to me, given MJF's condition, that this is perhaps a trickier one to give a definitive yes or no answer to than most autographs.

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