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Permalink Reply by autographcollector1 on July 24, 2019 at 5:44pm

Looks fake to me.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on July 24, 2019 at 8:59pm

RU007, is there a reason you didn't mention that this comes with a Perry Cox letter?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 24, 2019 at 9:29pm

He said "...test..." - I was half expecting something like this, but did not let it alter my observations. This reminds me of something prior.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 24, 2019 at 10:17pm

Comparing opinions of "unequal" value/experience(?) if this is what this is...seems circuitous to me. Not sure of the point of such cross comparisons and their value/relevance (especially when each graph is to be assessed individually). All I can say is I am more interested in (continuing to form) my own opinion(s) and learning from those of a very few others I respect (not TPA's) than whatever this is. Just my .02 cents.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 24, 2019 at 10:31pm

Perhaps I simply misunderstand this whole thing. Apologies.

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Permalink Reply by Ru007 on July 25, 2019 at 1:08am

As of this very moment I have Beckett doing a signature review to see if they say likely to pass full authentication or unlikely to pass full authentication, after there results I’m probably gonna send it to Epperson as well, I am not mentioning Cox name to either experts and I’ve seen forums on here where Epperson actually  communicated  Back with forum members and I didn’t want to sway his opinion after i pay for his fee, but thanks to you the cat is out of the bag lol and now if he see this he’s opinion might get swayed a bit, if you look at some of my other posts that members can attest to this will not be the first time I’ve put these so called experts to the test and probably want be my last, I sent a quick opinion to both Epperson and BAS a while back ago and I got totally different answers, but I went with BAS because the talented members on this here forum advised me to steer clear of this  particular signature, is this a clear enough answer for you? 

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Permalink Reply by Ru007 on July 25, 2019 at 1:31am

Invest_in_graphs And another test I did was I took a signed album on eBay that has passed full BAS examination and had the letter to prove it, sent a snap shot back to Beckett and it came back unlikely to pass full authentication, so if the fact that I left out a certain authenticater out of my authentication test bothers you well so be it, it bothers me as well that there are so many fraudulent signatures out there and all I’m trying to do is educate myself from making wrong choices and truly try to find the most trustworthy  authenticator I can, 

 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 25, 2019 at 1:39am

I recall our discussion now about the Macca CD. Were it me (and it isn't), I would look for a good mentor(s), just my "quick opinion" Rob :)

Best wishes & happy collecting,

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Ru007 on July 25, 2019 at 1:58am

Yessir as always I appreciate you taking a look and your advice 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 25, 2019 at 2:00am

My pleasure truly :)

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on July 25, 2019 at 3:11am

"Tests" may lead to interesting discussions although I am not sure for what ultimate purpose. That TPA services are imperfect? We already know that. Is there an axe to grind? What is the agenda?

I believe this site works best when we are trying to assist collectors become better informed. I also hope it promotes optimism in a hobby that is full of corruption. It is easy to destroy and hard to repair.

I do not see good intentions in discussions like these.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on July 25, 2019 at 4:36am

RU007, yes, your answer is clear enough. Now I understand.  

I think you'll find that everyone has an opinion. Some you like, some you don't.  In the end, I think you have to become your own authenticator.  If not, my opinion is that you're not ready to buy the item. You do that by studying known (or at least "believed") exemplars. 

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