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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 22, 2020 at 1:43am

That’s a great question. If it’s full certification I think you can assume that it’s likely real. 

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Permalink Reply by rob kunne on May 22, 2020 at 2:13am

they can't lie about a itp certificate,and if you have doubts just ask the seller ''where-when-and how''. i did the same with the al pacino's i have with itp psa certificates and answers came also from autograph live with proof that at that moment steve grad did attend the signings with mr pacino. maybe you could post some of the items with itp certificates and answers will come...

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Permalink Reply by Mr Mojo Risin on May 22, 2020 at 2:48am

Absolutely No.

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Permalink Reply by Al on May 22, 2020 at 3:38am

If the cert is genuine then 100%

It's a fool proof way of it being authentic. 

I have a Pele signed ball with PSA ITP cert for that reason 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on May 22, 2020 at 5:08am

ITP certifications are as close to automatic as there is without getting it yourself. Although I never automatically assume anything in this business.

If my memory serves me correctly, there was some heated discussions about a Harrison Ford signing supposedly witnessed not long ago.

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Permalink Reply by Al on May 22, 2020 at 8:03am

Oh right, do you who remember who was purported to have witnessed it?

With psa a rep is literally sitting there while a celeb does signings, then gets paid by the agency to certify them.

I would never buy Pele without an ITP as his signature is so easily forged

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on May 22, 2020 at 8:13am

It was one of those private signing companies. Not PSA, JSA, or Bickett. I'm not disputing ITP certs in general. If you note I stated they are as close to automatic without getting it yourself in person.

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Permalink Reply by Al on May 22, 2020 at 8:18am

Yes I read. Was just curious about which company it was supposedly witnessed Harrison Ford--so much bs in this hobby, it's disheartening at times 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 22, 2020 at 8:24am

In the title Marc says JSA – Becket.  BBC

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 22, 2020 at 5:49am

I read the text, not the title, and didn’t realize you said witnessed. Yes, you can trust witnesses (In the Presence) with a legit COA. 

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 22, 2020 at 9:36am

Probably better peace of mind than non-inperson authentication, but given the shoddy practices of both companies, I still wouldn't feel 100% great with just about anything they offer. 

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