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REAL Elvis autographs

There has been a lot of confusion lately about Elvis Presley autographs due to a discussion that was recently posted. Elvis is one of the hardest autographs to authenticate as he had so many styles of signatures. After 20+ years of studying his autograph even I can get fooled every once and awhile. What messes up the forger is greed. The autograph gets too consistant for Elvis and they get caught. Recently a VERY good forger popped up and fooled me and others. The good thing is before the forgeries could be sold we figured out the forgeries and put a stop to this person. As you will see in this post "Elvis was consistantly inconsistant in the way he signed and wrote". There are though things he always did that show through though. All I am going to do here is post authentic signatures. I won't be explaining them in any way, that will be for you to do to educate yourselves. I will answer some questions though if needed. Enjoy!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2011 at 5:33am

I've tried it privately with Greg.

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 8, 2011 at 6:06am

If you read through his blog I said to him that what you are saying would be the correct thing to do, nothing but screwball comments came after that.

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 8, 2011 at 6:16am

screball comments... from Greg; no way lol...

& no Vanderhoven that is not an invitation!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2011 at 9:35am

Well that was redundant...Roger said it two posts above. I'm behind on my reading.

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Permalink Reply by Darren Ruskin, III on September 8, 2011 at 5:16am

i realize mr. epperson said he will not explain these signatures, but i am curious if anyone else knows what year the Sidney Miller/Joanie Somers (program page?) comes from? Is this his style of signature late in life? I am familiar with all of these other styles, but have never seen this type before. Was this late fat Elvis period??

And by the way - thanks to him for posting all of these good ones for people to have for use of education when looking to buy an Elvis...D

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 8, 2011 at 6:04am

Good morning Darren,

I have watched some of your comments on discussions and I am very impressed with your knowledge of music autographs in whole, not just a single artist. You are one that really understands it. You must have been a chaser at one time from the things you say and the knowledge you have. You also mentioned "Levi and Rainman" so I figure you did this in the NY area at least for a time. Keep up the intellegent talk.

Now I did say I won't explain the autographs but I would answer questions that I felt needed, you brought up a GREAT question as this signature type is a very rare and widely unknown example, that's why I posted it.

You are correct (not politically though) that this was from 72-73 when this was signed. What I have been doing on this post is only putting up ones that I either knew the person who got them signed or stood face to face with and they told how, when and where it was signed. That way my opinion doesn't play a factor on any of the signatures I list. This was signed for one of my best friend Steve's Mom when she visited Vegas around that time. (She wasn't exactly clear on the date). They were at another hotel then the one he played at (The Hilton) and he was there. This is a hotel postcard that they had on the table. She walked over and asked him for an autograph. The elongated "P" really throws people off as it is so rarely seen. 70's autograph are harder to find as the children of the parents who got things signed then (and he was much harder to get next to in those days) haven't passed away yet so the kids haven't sold them. That's why you see so many 50's and early 60's show up, at least that is my theory from buying them. About a year or so ago Bill Miller from RR Auction called me and said he just met with a lady who swore to him that she met Elvis and Ann Margret in a Vegas hotel and asked them for their autographs. He said she looked so much trueful and said the Margret was authentic (I wouldn't know her autograph) but there was no way that Elvis could have signed it. He sent me the image, (below) and I said that I am sure that it is authentic. Same era. Hope that helps. The one below that is another one I had on file.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2011 at 6:21am

Bill White.

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 8, 2011 at 6:36am

Sorry it's early yes Bill White

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on September 8, 2011 at 1:07pm

I don't think I'd end up buying one of these. The difference between collectible and authentic? I usually end up looking more at the "Presley" than the "Elvis". But I do notice a striking consistency in the "vis" of Elvis in the three big "P" Elvis examples you posted.

Do you have any authentic examples with 6 loops in the "visP" instead of the usual 4 or 5? That's something I've looked at in recent times when I noticed the number that were coming on eBay with 6 or even 7 loops in the last couple years.

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Permalink Reply by Darren Ruskin, III on September 8, 2011 at 11:35pm

You see, this is good to know for all of us. Had I - or probably anyone else seen this style it would have instantly been put in the bad pile. Probably not as desirable since it is such a weird style, but cool to see the progression.

And to answer your question, yes, I used to get out and collect in person a lot more than I am able to manage today, but I do still do it when time allows. I was never a dealer. People who get autographs full time creep me out to be quite honest, but there are some good fellas out there doing it....I just don't talk to them too long. start getting sucked into their all autographs all the time mode of thinking. can't afford to be that nuts! cheers..D

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 9, 2011 at 8:20am

Wow

you really do know the whole story, I did it for years too, I only go after the solid signers anymore.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 8, 2011 at 9:31am

I have been studying Elvis sigs for a few years now. The ones roger presented here are enlightening. I am seeing one thong that appears to be consistent with most of his autographs. The "l" in presley always seems to be smaller and slanted to the right when compared with the "l" in Elvis. And the "y" appears to be consistent.