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STUDY: Jerry Lee Lewis - TTM real or not real

Steve asked me to start a new thread since some were having a lot of issues with regards to whether or not the through the mail autographs of Jerry Lee Lewis are real or not. I will post some examples of what we have been getting recently and some know in person examples. These TTM signatures are not cheap. You have to pay $50 for them to his box office box. The question is are they real or not. Roger has said that he has never seen Mr. Lewis sign this way and it looks to perfect - like a woman's signature.

Please post your thoughts here and examples.

thanks

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 6, 2021 at 9:52am

Ballroom, I appreciate your nonconsensus viewpoint because it pushes our discussion forward, but I think the top two are secretarials and the bottom likely authentic. I wouldn’t be comfortable including either of the top two as exemplars for Jerry Lee Lewis. There are a lot of differences, and I think these were signed by three different people.
PSA AutogtaphFacts is a great reference, but they make mistakes, too. I’m confident that the top one should be removed from their database.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on April 6, 2021 at 10:03am

Agree - Henry.

Mark

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 6, 2021 at 10:41am

I had a pretty lengthy correspondence with the person who received the second example. He didn’t try to sell me anything (this SP was already sold) and I’ve never purchased anything from him. He has gotten JLL signatures TTM, but insisted that this one was obtained in person after a show in 2002. He seemed entirely genuine to me and was open to the possibility of secretarial TTMs.

Instead of immediately agreeing, why not actually do some research and see if you find this and other patterns across various TTMs?

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 6, 2021 at 11:06am

I’m not sure the word of some random seller is convincing. Sellers lie more often than our eyes do.

Steve Zarelli took a stab at identifying the patterns of the TTMs, and I gave you a few examples of varieties of sold items that I don’t think are authentic (signed cd inserts, Jazz Fest prints, books).

This site has a lot of in person exemplars to use as a basis for authentication. Unfortunately, many of the TTMs look nothing like those regardless of who signed them.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 6, 2021 at 11:53am

You can see the same thing in the “Lee” portion on this signed CD.

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 6, 2021 at 12:01pm

Sorry, but regardless of the e formation, I think that’s secretarial.

This proxy signer connected the J to the e in Jerry. I’m not sure I’ve seen any verified exemplars that do that. Even without that, this one looks completely off to me.

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Permalink Reply by Steverino on April 6, 2021 at 12:34pm

More Jerry Lee submitted for your review .... Signed at the same time - In Person, 1980

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 6, 2021 at 12:52pm

Thanks! Those are both very nice.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on April 6, 2021 at 3:41pm

those are exceptional!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 6, 2021 at 3:54pm

Love these. They both look clearly real and the difference in these signed one after the other is a reminder of how differently JLL has signed at the same time.