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How is this Clark gable?
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Permalink Reply by Mark Saunders on
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Thank you!
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It has a global coa so that may be my answer right there.
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Permalink Reply by Eddy on
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Mark - Other members may know more, but I don't think a Global COA necessarily eliminates a piece. My understanding is that, in recent years, they have worked at becoming more careful in their work of authenticating.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Etienne,
From what I've seen, recently and past, I consider Global COAs a sign of forgery, not authenticity.
When you think about it though, why would anyone use Global for an authentic autograph when ones certified by PSA, JSA, BAS and ACOA usually sell faster, and for multiples of what a Global is worth?
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Steve - I really don't have much experience with Global. Some time ago, I saw a Jean Harlow that had been "certified" by Global. It was one of the worst forgeries I had ever seen. It also wasn't one of her mother's signatures like usual....just a really bad attempt at Jean herself that they had stickered.
As far as your thought about why a person would use Global as opposed to the others, I think there 's a simple answer. To many people, a COA is a COA and that's good enough for them. People aren't aware of the difference between legit TPA's vs. Global not to mention all of the homemade COA's by whoever. Just recently I was speaking to someone who wouldn't believe me that a piece was not authentic. They argued "but it has a COA" (from an unrecognized name of course).
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Permalink Reply by Jonny on
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Please explain something to me Mr. Cyrkin. In my opinion, there is no question that this Clark Gable is an authentic example of his signature. Why would you blanket state that a Global COA is a sign of forgery? I thought one of the earmarks of authentication is that every autograph should stand on its own merit. Those that use the "blind squirrel" analogy fall into this sweeping generalization pitfall. Sadly, if I were to blindly base authenticity on the authenticator, then JSA should also be considered a sign of forgery. There are by far way more fraudulent JSA autographs hitting the market currently than from any other authentication company. I thought the purpose of this site was to have knowledgeable people weigh in on opinions of authenticity for each autograph. Sorry, but I think it is a slippery slope to go down by authenticating an authenticator rather than the autograph.
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Actually I am defending the authenticating of signatures versus the authenticators. Beating a dead horse makes no sense. Obviously this Clark Gable is legitimate, so there is fallacy in stating it is bad based on the authenticator.
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Permalink Reply by Rich on
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Ah okay, I get that. Sentiment seems to be that Gable is fine (it certainly looks vintage, though I can't say I know anything about his signature).
That being said, I don't believe Steve's comment to be wrong. While the big three TPA big players in the hobby are probably spotty at best, Global has decidedly different type of reputation altogether.
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