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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on December 3, 2011 at 7:43pm

Unfortunately those 2 are common FORGERIES that's in todays market in the tens of thousands....as far as Mantle picking up the pen or marker after his M's I have seen them connected and disconnected in both portions of his name...but for the most part Disconnected....

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Permalink Reply by Nick Malloy on December 3, 2011 at 8:02pm

I assumed they were forged.  As I try to understand these autographs, what were the common signs that showed you these were forged and what are some other common forgery characteristics?  Thanks for the reply.

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on December 3, 2011 at 8:31pm

Hey Nick...its that particular style...if you check my pictures there all fakes...the uneven last name and those particular M's are a huge give away....

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Permalink Reply by Nick Malloy on December 3, 2011 at 9:14pm

Now I heard Mantle changed how he signed things.  How does this earlier autograph look?  I have just been looking at other Mantle autographs and how does this later autograph look?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 4, 2011 at 6:01am

Im not sure exactly what year he changed from the style shown in your first pic, to the one we saw until his death (and even after, ugh).   But I do know that I had a yankee team ball from 1960, and I still have a '61 ball that has the newer loop, so he changed sometime in the 50's.

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Permalink Reply by Nick Malloy on December 4, 2011 at 9:10am

Thanks for the helping me figure out when he changed his signature.  It will help my understanding.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on December 4, 2011 at 9:59am

Mantle's signature from his early years is much different than the signature we have all come to recognize.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 3, 2011 at 9:21pm

Hi Nick,

Here's an image with 15 examples of the most common type of Mickey Mantle forgeries.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/photo/mantles-from-aafes-exchange...

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Permalink Reply by Nick Malloy on December 4, 2011 at 9:13am

Is there a real autograph I can compare to?  I am starting to figure out the reason why Mantle's autograph is so hard to figure out.  I have heard that about 70% of his autographs are forgeries.  Is that a true fact?  Also how rare would it be to find a Mantle autograph?  It seems like it would be rare since so many are forged.  Also thanks for the link.  

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 4, 2011 at 9:33am

Nick,

Fuddjcal posted a blog with a link to his Mickey Mantles autographs on ImageShack, and they're all genuine unless he says otherwise (there may be a few forgeries posted...I forget). Here's the link to his blog:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/mickey-mantle-auth...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 4, 2011 at 9:47am

Nick

Besides the Mantles certified by PSA/DNA and JSA (they miss few Mantle forgeries), probably 98% are forgeries. 

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on December 4, 2011 at 12:16pm

Actually Nick in the Link Steve Posted I also posted an Authentic piece in my comment of one of my signed cards...totally authentic...you can see the dramatic differences...

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