Authenticity is Everything
Has anyone tried this Verimarx Ai tool that's advertised on this site?
Was wondering if anyone here has used it here and had it work well? I can't find much information on this tool, supposedly it detects forgeries, just wanted thoughts on it.
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Permalink Reply by Dominick Lisi on
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That’s a good point, and to clarify, we do perform comparative analysis as part of the process. We look at how a signature relates to known authentic exemplars, but we do not weigh that as heavily as the forgery-side analysis.
The reason is that a signature can differ from authentic examples for entirely legitimate reasons—age, writing conditions, speed, surface, instrument, fatigue, and countless other variables. What often becomes more telling is when a signature shows traits that are consistent with known forgery patterns or repeated non-genuine styles.
So it is not an either/or approach. Comparative review is part of the equation, but the stronger emphasis is placed on identifying characteristics that may indicate forgery. The goal is to give collectors a more informed understanding of the why behind an opinion, so they can better decide whether further examination or third-party authentication is warranted.
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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on
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So when a Beatles signature is submitted, it’s compared against common and well known forgery styles?
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As the systems continues to develop…yes.
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Good. That’s something that’s very much needed, not just for your service but in general.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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+1 Agree. After a while one can spot a peters/Ford "Bowie," will this ID consistent inconsistencies?
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Eric,
In time.. yes. The system will become increasingly more accurate as more information is provided. Also, it is imperative that we obtain information regarding known forgers and their associated forgery styles.
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Well, here, IMO, is a very obvious andy peters/Tony Ford "Bowie" -
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Thank you Eric.
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Here is an authentic that often gets flagged as a secretarial:
And another, thought to be secretarial but provably authentic:
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Here are representative exemplars for each era:
1936 document:
1946 William Morris contract:
1956 The Golden Ham signed:
Talk of the Town program 1967:
C. 1977 Smokey and the Bandit SP:
1980's card or page:
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Fine examples.
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Here is my own set:
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