Authenticity is Everything
Billie Holiday Autograph
I purchased this 78 vinyl record purportedly signed by Billie Holiday from an RACC trusted seller. I recently submitted the item to JSA for authentication, and unfortunately it did not pass.
I originally submitted it in person at a show here in CA a few weeks ago, and I was disappointed by how carelessly the item was handled during intake. When I received it back, there were fingerprints all over it. I contacted JSA immediately to report the condition, and they did expedite the review process.
Yesterday I received their letter confirming that the autograph did not pass authentication. I’m extremely disappointed and unsure what my next step should be, or if anyone here might be able to offer advice.
Prior to purchasing the item, I did my research and examined the signature characteristics—such as the looping of “Billie” and the shape of the “H” in “Holiday.” However, upon further inspection, the signature appears to have been written in ballpoint pen. Additionally, the Blue Ace label is known to be a bootleg label, and this particular pressing seems to have been released slightly before the time of her passing.
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Permalink Reply by Ryan Wolfson
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Sorry, I’m not sure who that is
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo
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Steve Cyrkin, the man who runs this site. He should be first in your contact list of friends. Something doesn't sound right to me anyway. This says volumes about the RACC FB Group.
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What do you suggest I ask? I agree this all seems strange
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Explain what has happened in a chronological and easy to read private message. Leave nothing out. Mention the pulled post, the pulled eBay feedback - all. Price as well. Best Offer also. I still wonder why this was not certified. I can't think of any reason not to increase profit. Unless it was not expected to pass.
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I just messaged Steve.
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Great. I just posted a contact for RACC FB - fill that out as well if you have not.
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I appreciate your help. I filled that out several times, no response
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You tried contacting the seller before leaving eBay feedback or posting to the RACC site, yes?
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Yes, i contacted him before
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Permalink Reply by Findbooks
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To ERIC:
What do you make of the Jackie Gleason in the seller's eBay list?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/277458343253?_skw=jackie+gleason&itmme...
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Hi FindBooks,
I was waiting for that question. It is unusual. That over-reaching "j" is something from the early 40's. Knowing what I do now about this seller I would simply avoid. Atypical, odd cut, poor ink adhesion. Why bother. Very hard sell. Overpriced as well. That is a 1959 Life Magazine Cover (or was). The "over-reaching" "J" is found just a few times in the 50+ exemplars I have posted.
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If Roger authenticates Holiday what would you take be?
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