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Permalink Reply by DB on September 2, 2012 at 2:25pm

seems it resolved with derek maki as it would appear it posted here on this thread for $599 and on ebay for $399.    http://live.autographmagazine.com/group/free-autograph-buy-sell-tra...

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 2, 2012 at 2:54pm

Perhaps someone from the Buy Sell Trade Group can come online here and explain why the following comment was deleted;   According to BigE aka Iluks Cyrkin deleted them?   Cyrkin, are you tring to hide something? 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 2, 2012 at 3:52pm

DB,

When a moderator deletes something, please don't repost it. You can ask about it, but don't repost.

I deleted the images of Big E's listing on eBay because you weren't questioning authenticity. You were only pointing out that he has it priced on eBay at $200 less. There's no need for an image of the listing, because the link you posted will be active on eBay for at least 90 days.

I deleted the images and link to the AML discussion where Big E is talking about a customer service concern with Coolwaters because this is a Buy/Sell/Trade group and that's not pertinent content.

Now if Big E had possibly done something wrong that potential buyers might need to know, I would have left the link to the discussion but still would have deleted the images, since interested parties could follow the link to the AML discussion.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 2, 2012 at 4:20pm

BTW, please stop jaggedly cutting images out. They don 't look good and make for larger file sizes. Use a page capture utility like the free one I mentioned the other day that's available for Google Chrome, or buy Snag-it or a similar screen capture tool. You can quickly and easily crop to the area you want to show.

Thanks

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 2, 2012 at 4:43pm

Well, this isn't the buy sell trade group is it? 

and if anyone is going to delete a post it ought to behoove the "moderator" to explain that decision to the commentor before it's deleted!  Incidently, I might have been inaccurate in making a connection but the due diligence led me to believe otherwise and as the PM conversation would have it; I made the correct connection.

Last we knew there were two postings and based on positions at that time, one of them would be considered stolen.  One was being sold here and the other on ebay.  Do you know whether or not it has been resolved?  L  

Also, you deleted a conversation where I clearly asked if this problem had been resolved!  I see you deleted that as well as the ebay post. 

Presuming that it was resolved than the item depicted below would be what appears to be a signing from coolwater productions even though the associated authentic COAs are not depicted.

Incidently, I have used those tools for some time - frankly, I used those tools when you were still counting coins!

 

here it is again, IN THIS THREAD - MYSIGNER's thread

 

Subject: Delete my auction and my pictures please

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Photos were deleted by Steve.

> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:46:28 +0000 > From: DB > To: BIG E > > except for trying to gouge members here on aml for an additonal $200.00.

> that being said, what would Derek have to do with any of this presuming the teturns when last it was left worked out.   It was worked out, wasn't it?

> > Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:31:15 +0000 > > From: BIG E > > To: DB > > > > This will not help Derek in any way.
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orignal ebay posting;

 

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on September 2, 2012 at 4:53pm

I thought the context of the discussion was fine. DB had valid concerns and followed through appropriately in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 2, 2012 at 5:28pm

thanks brandon, that's the way I was looking at it...

although I must muse on why anyone would be selling the same item on ebay for something exceptionally less including a make an offer then come here to AML and want to sell it for alot more.  Whatever the market will bear I suppose presuming all is above board...

Then again, the publicity is already a good thing as the ebay, with the requisite displayed coas, offering already has an offer.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 3, 2012 at 4:00pm

DB,

I was not aware of moderators anywhere that are supposed to ask for permission before they moderate. You can always email asking why, but for you to accuse me of trying to hide something was inappropriate and uncalled for. Please don't do it again.

As I said before, I deleted the parts of your reply in the Buy/Sell/Trade group that I felt didn't belong there and were unnecessary. I left what I thought was appropriate: that Big E was charging $200 less on eBay. No image was necessary, because you posted a link that would be up for months after the auction listing expired. 

In the future, please don't repost images from one place on AML to another unless absolutely necessary. Many people access this site on phones and other mobile devices, and duplicated images may slow things down and cost them unnecessary bandwidth fees. Those who want to see those images can click on the link and view them. 

While we're talking about this, DB, I need to remind you again to please try to be clearer when you post things. I know your intentions are good, but many of your posts are confusing and very hard to understand. We can't tell for sure what you're saying, and sometimes people may take things far differently than what you may mean. Please write as concisely and clearly as you can if you want people to understand what you're saying.

All I got out of your reposting of the Coolwaters conflict in Big E's discussion in Buy/Sell/Trade was your comment that it looked like he must have resolved his customer service concerns with them. That's didn't seem pertinent, so I deleted it.

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 3, 2012 at 4:12pm

It was a question that was asked that was never answered.   It's your site and you seemingly do whatever you want when you want.  enjoy!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 3, 2012 at 4:20pm

If it was potentially important o people considering buying the piece that Big E has for sale, you didn't get your point across. I still don't get it. That's why you need to be clearer.

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Permalink Reply by DB on September 4, 2012 at 4:04pm

I was very clear and others were well aware of this.  Although u keep saying "we" and I always muse if you have a mouse in your pocket.

but to be very clear so even you can understand;  it would appear this piece is stolen.  It was suppose to have been returned but it never was to completion.  Essentially, you have allowed a stolen piece to be sold on AML.

Incidently, "bigE aka Lluks-yarg" was well aware of this which is why he wanted me to take down the connection!

 

Or let me quote Derek Maki, the owner of the item, of which I just received, "

it never did get returned to me and he got his full refund!!!  i just emailed ebay about this guy... lets see if they help me!!!  can you let me know if this gets taken down!   and the listing Derek is speaking of was the 2nd listing where it was lowered to $249.00.  While we are on it btw, the signing pictures are the property & copyrighted of Coolwater Productions and no authorization was given for thier usage to be posted here or elsewhere.

 

lastly, this f*&*Inng guy!!!! I tried to sue him and his state does NOT allow me to since his address is a UPS store!!! according to Derek Maki.

 

Thus, if it was sold via AML I would strongly suggest the buyer, whoever that might be realize that they now have based on the information received by the rightfull owner; stolen property.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on September 4, 2012 at 4:26pm

I certainly did not decipher that from the original message, but I will admit I tune out long messages that seem to be going nowhere. Why not just avoid the riddles and obtuse verbiage and be clear in the first place?

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