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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 3, 2015 at 5:36pm

Here's his site: http://www.restorationbyjm.com/

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 3, 2015 at 5:45pm

I don't know if I can blame the restorer, some of the actual restoration work is pretty impressive in the examples. I can also understand someone wanting to remove the dedication (however a dedication doesn't bother me.) 

http://www.restorationbyjm.com/view_restoration_work_pg6.php

Am I wrong but he implanted the whole George Harrison cut into the sleeve or did he do an ink transfer? I will never get behind an ink transfer as it still seems like a forgery to me. 

EDIT: I guess I didn't see this part: AFTER: The "George Harrison" autograph was fitted to the bottom right corner without being glued down. All signatures remained untouched.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 3, 2015 at 6:07pm

I understand that he can take the coating off a coated piece of stock (which all glossy or semi-glossy stock has) with the writing on it and place it on an album or other premium piece of memorabilia.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 3, 2015 at 7:01pm

How do you feel about all of this Steve?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 3, 2015 at 7:16pm

I doubt I'd ever want one.

But I think it's that if the piece was labeled with what was done to it, even inconspicuously if labeled in a place people know to look, and represented as restored or assembled when offered for sale, every time it's offered, it's OK. 

What do you think, Adam?

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 3, 2015 at 7:37pm

I have been thinking about the pro's and con's of this. I have gone back and forth. I have come to the conclusion that if it is going to be done then it absolutely needs to be marked or labeled some way as a restoration piece. 

I think more care is put into this then a forgery, so I couldn't put it in the same category. I mean, these people seem so skilled at these ink transfers that I guess if they wanted to they could just be forging instead of putting this much effort into it. 

I can understand how someone would want this done and I guess now I wouldn't be as judgemental of someone who did this as long as they promoted it as a restoration/transfer. However, It doesn't interest me personally. I like the history of pieces, that is part of the reason why I even started to collect. I think this kills off the history of the signature, but I don't think John Lennon thought of himself as a historical figure in 1964 and I doubt Paul McCartney could look at his signature from that period and remember if he signed it on a postcard or on a back of an album sleeve. 

It all depends on how you collect and your reasoning behind it I suppose. Very interesting topic. 

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Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on March 3, 2015 at 7:51pm

I agree with you about labels, but I think in no way should the removal of signatures be called "restoration"  It is in no sense of the word "restoring" anything. Your word "assembled" is better and I think that is what these should be called or recreated.  I agree with you about labels, but that is a bit like a lock on a house it only keeps honest people in line.  Sadly if "restorers" can put labels on others can take them off and no doubt will. A PSA-DNA type stamp with an individual number would be better although I suspect those having this done would not agree to that.  The Genie is out of the bottle and it just creates another thing for collectors to be wary of.  I certainly would be questioning sellers of high ticket items carefully about this and "re-inking."    

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 2, 2015 at 5:26pm

dave here mate

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Permalink Reply by Steven Jackson on March 2, 2015 at 10:07pm

could you link me to his profile I'm curious to see any of his other restoration jobs. Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 2, 2015 at 10:11pm

Hi Steve I personally don't know who are doing the restoration work Anthony maybe able to help you out.

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on March 2, 2015 at 10:26pm

this- i heard - is the top pro.

http://www.restorationbyjm.com/

examples

http://www.restorationbyjm.com/view_restoration_work_pg5.php

http://www.restorationbyjm.com/view_restoration_work_pg2.php

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 2, 2015 at 10:38pm

The Beatles poster on there site was a beautiful restoration job, restored the life back into the piece.
See the Beatles set that they added the George to the record.

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