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Beatles signed fan club card. Did I score or get scammed?
I just bought this off of ebay about two weeks ago. I have been studying Beatles autographs for over 20 years and figured they were just about the best ones I've ever seen on a fan club card so I just got the seller to end early and sell to me. Now that I have it, it is pristine. That scares me. The ink is aged and autographs are perfect, perhaps too perfect? Back story is they were signed for a still photographer from ABC tv in NYC during Feb 64 trip. They seem to date to that period, Roger signed off on them, but I can't get Perry or Tracks to return emails regarding COAs for it. I was going to send it in to PSA/DNA but I was wondering what everyone thought on here. The back has 4 black paper marks where it was taken out of a scrapbook. Otherwise, mint condition.
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Permalink Reply by Paul on
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That's amazing good one caiazzo. There is a crazy forger who painted famous works of art, eventually was sprung did time and is making a killing selling his original works of art.
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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the McCartney is awful. and look at how perfectly placed the signatures are relative to each other.
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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on
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JJ, it would be better to start a new thread if you are looking to discuss a different set. Can make life very confusing otherwise.
If the Fan Club set had been $5k or anywhere near it the alarm bells would have had to be ringing. Only someone with very little knowledge would let a signed photo that looks as good as this go for $5k. Signed album pages can go for this kind of money.
Coming from the wrong side of the Atlantic I struggle with the premium that "Ed Sullivan-related" items appear to command. I know the Fab 4 went the '60s equivalent of "viral" after the show but reading some auction house descriptions you'd have thought the Magna Carta or American Constitution has been signed during the show. Personally I would only pay a premium if the signed item carried some kind of reference to the show/visit.
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Permalink Reply by JJ on
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Hi a pug called eva, I understand your point, but I pulled that page from a large group of exemplars not to discuss a different set. It was because it looked similar to the one being shown here. One similar characteristic is that whoever signed both of them decided not to do a continuous line McCartney, which is atypical of how he signed. If the club set is a forgery, I thought that it may be possible that it was done by the same person who did the set on the album page. It doesn't seem that anyone has gotten to the bottom of what's going on with the one that Ryan first posted, but we learned about the "Joe Long" set when Steve described the background of the page. If anything, that only adds to the caution that one needs to have when swimming in these shark infested waters. Sincerely - JJ
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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on
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It looks like autopen?
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on
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As it turns out, I returned the card. No one besides Roger would sign off on it and he never saw it first hand. I have been warned about a newly discovered forget so beware when it comes to pristine items that long ok like early 64 examples!
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