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Beware of Bulgarian scammer

Hello people, has anyone ever dealt with a guy who use one or all of these address?

Tihomir Petkov - or Vladimir Petkov, on skype he uses vladimirpetkov11

dairy5885@abv.bg
breitling80900@abv.bg
thunderhack@abv.bg
vladimirpetkov111213@abv.bg

We had a deal on two autographs, but he sent me something VEEEEEEEEEEERy different from the deal. I don't even know if what he sent me is legit, since I don't know Blaze Bailey's signature.

Please let me know something, before I go to the Police and to italian Guardia di Finanza.

I know he's a friend of another Bulgarian guy in here.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on June 1, 2015 at 7:39am

€260  total for both?

Permalink Reply by Nicole Ridgway on June 1, 2015 at 12:46pm

Yes.

Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on June 1, 2015 at 12:59pm

As much as I would like to say the seller made a mistake and sent the wrong item it appears that by the price alone and then the fact they are being evasive that this is a scam. Whether the Police and your card company can help remains to be see n but hopefully you can get your money back

Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on June 1, 2015 at 10:36pm

Agreed.

Kind of strange for a scammer to bother to send anything at all (and by registered mail and with a return address on the envelope).

Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on June 2, 2015 at 12:14am

I have seen this a lot before. They send it registered so they can show tracking details and that it was delivered and signed for. Then when someone makes a claim they say it was delivered and it's their word versus yours.

Permalink Reply by michelle on June 2, 2015 at 12:31am

so who will have signed for it , if it is not 'Nicole'? & it has been sent with tracking details??

I had a really surreal experenice once with an ebay seller  and the courier who said it had been delivered and it was my word against them.  Eventually after a number of very expensive phone calls to the courier company and a chance remark that the operator made it got sorted.  They had delivered it to a residence with a different coloured door to mine!!!

Anyway I hope 'Nicole' gets his money back

Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on June 2, 2015 at 1:10am

I can see how a bait-and-switch like that might work if the items were similar, but as I pointed out earlier the weight difference in this instance would be huge.

The AC/DC lithograph is so thick it can't be rolled very tight and would have to be shipped in a very big (and heavy) tube. So the difference in postage would be 30-50 fold. Also you can usually review the weight of a registered shipment with the tracking code.

This all just seems so mind-bogglingly dumb, even for a scam.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 1, 2015 at 1:19pm

Nicole,

€260 for both AC/DC and Freddy Mercury is a fraction of what they're worth, and you knew that--you're not just an inexperienced new collector. I hope you get your money back, and that the seller pays a price, but I don't feel sorry for you.

What happened to you just confirms what members here warn people about all the time. If a deal seems to good to be true, it is.

Permalink Reply by Paul on June 2, 2015 at 1:39am
Looks like Paolo got pinched.
Permalink Reply by Nicole Ridgway on June 4, 2015 at 2:23am

Hello people, a quick update.

NUNTIO VOBIS GAUDIUM MAGNUM: yesterday night I got one mail from the seller. He said he didn't answer before because HE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

In his words, this was the story. He had to send Blaze Bailey and Gus G. to this austrian guy...let's call him AUSTRIA. He gave the 2 packs to his brother, and his brother went to the post office where something magic happened: he got confused, and sent me Bailey and Gus, and sent AUSTRIA Freddie and AC/DC.
Once again: should I believe? I mean...Blaze is a very tiny letter, freddie and AC/DC should be bigger...Unless you are sending a hundred of letters...did you REALLY get confused? The seller wanted to wait until today to see what AUSTRIA get. And when I asked "would you please give me AUSTRIA's tracking number" he disappeared again.

Well, I'll wait. IF IF IF and I say IF it's true AUSTRIA got freddie and AC/DC he will be a very lucky man. Really.

But at this point, I think he's folling me once again.

Permalink Reply by Nicole Ridgway on June 5, 2015 at 9:49am

Just finished talking on Skype with the "seller". Take a look at this and spend your 2 cents.

Ehm...there are a lot of spelling and verbs mistake...sorry. And some NSFW words...

[17.57.20] Paolo: Hello, I m here

[17.57.25] vladimir petkov: Are you there

[17.57.31] Paolo: yes yes i m here

[17.57.41] vladimir petkov: Min please

[18.00.18] vladimir petkov: I dont lnow what exactly happened

[18.00.37] vladimir petkov: What written on your package?

[18.00.48] Paolo: I send you a picture, wait

[18.00.54] vladimir petkov: Ok

[18.01.25] Paolo: In this picture I erased the address to go to police

[18.02.07] Paolo: You sent me a little enveloppe with Blaze Bailey picture and Gus G. picture.

[18.02.13] Paolo: Sent from TIMOHIR PETKOW

[18.02.35] Paolo: I erased the address because I wanted to sent it to the police.

[18.02.44] vladimir petkov: Tihomir is my brother

[18.02.53] vladimir petkov: The one who shipped them

[18.04.33] Paolo: ok. so he made a mistake.

[18.04.43] Paolo: And I went to the police to report you and your Brother.

[18.04.44] Paolo: Now.

[18.05.01] Paolo: I don't care who made the mistake, but there is a couple of solujtions.

[18.05.33] Paolo: 01. you fully refund me + pay something extra for the mistake and the time you made me loose. I go quickly yto the police and get back the fraud. And we forget the story.

[18.05.51] vladimir petkov: 2?

[18.07.00] Paolo: 02. you send me QUICKLY with FEDEX my autographs. Quickly means really soon because Im very very very tired of this story. I have been patient and kind with you, I paid quickly and I hgot this s***.

[18.07.15] Paolo: 03. Everything remains the same, the police will do its story against you.

[18.07.24] Paolo: can you give me the address of the austrian?

[18.08.12] vladimir petkov: I think that my brother changed the addresses and now freddie and acdc

[18.08.13] Paolo: you decide what to do. I'm being correct. Try to be correct you too.

[18.08.16] vladimir petkov: Are in lucas

[18.08.53] Paolo: ok. give me lucas address.

[18.08.59] vladimir petkov: Why?

[18.09.17] Paolo: I want to search if he is a good trader or not.

[18.09.44] Paolo: Or refund me NOW and we both forget everything.

[18.09.48] Paolo: it's your choice.

[18.10.09] Paolo: remember I went to the police and to financial guard because this was a TOTAL FRAUD.

[18.10.18] vladimir petkov: No it is not

[18.10.31] vladimir petkov: It is lack of luck and one big mistake

[18.10.55] vladimir petkov: What do you mean by pay extra?

[18.11.04] vladimir petkov: The first alternative

[18.11.45] vladimir petkov: ???

[18.11.58] Paolo: We can close the Whole story if you pay me 160 + a little extra that you decide.

[18.12.15] Paolo: Why dont you want to give me lucas address? I would like to search if he's a good trader.

[18.12.28] vladimir petkov: It is not your business

[18.12.40] Paolo: ok. so you're deciding to fully refund me?

[18.12.46] vladimir petkov: I and i wont give you his address it ia private

[18.13.00] Paolo: no private address. email address!

[18.13.02] vladimir petkov: What does it mean little extra?

[18.13.45] Paolo: 250 euro and we close the Whole thing. I had 2 days off from work to go to the police because YOU or YOUR BROTHER didn't write me any mail to all my mails.

[18.13.54] Paolo: an I lost 2 days of job for this FRAUD.

[18.14.14] vladimir petkov: 100€???

[18.14.44] Paolo: I earn 55 euro a day. When I don't go to work I loose 55 euro.

[18.14.59] Paolo: I LOST 110 EURO FOR YOU. + 160 EURO FOR THE FRAUD.

[18.15.04] vladimir petkov: It is not my problem

[18.15.11] vladimir petkov: You are very greedy

[18.15.16] Paolo: ok, who's the problem,?

[18.15.17] vladimir petkov: Or you are mad

[18.15.34] Paolo: Ok, refund me 160 euro and we close the story.

[18.15.43] Paolo: and stop.

[18.15.51] vladimir petkov: I can offer you this

[18.16.29] vladimir petkov: To try to convince lucas to give me back my autos and as fast as i can to ship them to you

[18.16.49] vladimir petkov: If he want money to send them back again to me ibwill pay

[18.16.54] Paolo: and if he doesn't accept?

[18.16.57] vladimir petkov: To correct my mistake

[18.17.28] Paolo: ok but if he don't accept?

[18.17.56] Paolo: or we can make another thing. Because I'm afraid he dont' accept.

[18.17.59] vladimir petkov: Give me time for that reason

[18.18.07] vladimir petkov: Can police help to me

[18.18.08] vladimir petkov: ?

[18.19.02] Paolo: Listen my proposal. You refund me 160 euro. When you send the right autographs, I pay you INSTANTLY. And if you show me some respect for all this case, I will send you 200 instead of 160 just to show you Im kind hionest

[18.19.07] Paolo: and I want peace and not war

[18.19.41] vladimir petkov: The problem is that i have not got the money now

[18.19.47] Paolo: what do you think?

[18.21.09] Paolo: I expected an answer like this. And when do you have money?

[18.21.31] vladimir petkov: What was the reason to hurry to sell them

[18.21.41] vladimir petkov: In your opinion

[18.22.07] Paolo: your reason, do you remember? You sent me lots of mail to make me pay quickly, then you DISAPPEARED.

[18.22.24] Paolo: Well I don't know...maybe you're poor

[18.22.27] Paolo: maybe joble3ss

[18.22.44] Paolo: who knows? I TRUSTED YOU WITHOUT KNOWING YOU DIRECTLY.

[18.22.48] Paolo: Who knows???

[18.22.54] Paolo: Do you jknow me? NO

[18.22.59] Paolo: Do I know you? NO.

[18.23.12] vladimir petkov: And i dont offend you bacause i dont know you

[18.23.23] Paolo: how did I offend you?

[18.23.24] vladimir petkov: And i will please you for the same

[18.23.33] Paolo: tell me how I offend you ...

[18.23.39] vladimir petkov: Poor

[18.23.45] vladimir petkov: Jobless

[18.23.55] vladimir petkov: Fraud fraud fraud

[18.24.58] Paolo: A correct person would have written me SOON when I sent hundreds of mails.

[18.25.07] Paolo: And you are replying after a lot of time.

[18.25.32] vladimir petkov: First i wanted to be sure

[18.25.46] vladimir petkov: At the beggining i thouth that you might lie

[18.25.51] Paolo: A correct person would have refund me soon, and then TRIED to solve the problem. Because I don't think this Lucas will send you something that's Worth MORE than Bailey and Gus G.

[18.25.58] Paolo: I don't lie my friend.

[18.26.04] Paolo: I don't lie.

[18.26.16] Paolo: I don't have any reason to lie

[18.26.33] vladimir petkov: Ok om

[18.26.34] vladimir petkov: Ok

[18.26.45] vladimir petkov: While i am trying to solve the problem

[18.26.56] vladimir petkov: Sell blaze and gus autpgrpahs

[18.27.03] vladimir petkov: What you take is for you

[18.27.32] Paolo: You sell or I sell?

[18.27.47] vladimir petkov: You sell them

[18.28.33] vladimir petkov: Try to sell both autograph

[18.29.29] Paolo: Are you kidding? It's obvious that if I sell them, I get the money and not you. ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[18.29.42] Paolo: Why dont you refund me instead and we close this story?

[18.30.40] vladimir petkov: Yes

[18.30.48] vladimir petkov: Sell them and get the money

[18.30.55] vladimir petkov: This is what i said

[18.31.02] vladimir petkov: Dont want to give it to me

[18.31.54] Paolo: First you ahve to refund me.

[18.32.03] Paolo: Blaze and Gus are Worth MAYBE 30 euros...

[18.32.17] Paolo: what do I make out of 30 euros when I gave you 160?????

[18.32.24] Paolo: This must be a joke, seriously.

[18.32.43] vladimir petkov: First our deal with the austrian guy was for 65€

[18.33.04] vladimir petkov: Give me time to try to get my autographs soon

[18.33.15] vladimir petkov: Back soon

[18.33.29] Paolo: While I give you time, you fully refund me. ANd when you get back your autographs, we will get our deal.

[18.33.36] Paolo: THis is the best solution IN MY OPINION.

[18.33.59] vladimir petkov: Yes but just right now i cant refund you

[18.34.01] Paolo: Obviously I will give back Blaze and Gus as soon as you fully refund me.

[18.34.07] Paolo: When can you refund me?

[18.34.27] Paolo: I don't want to wait. It's not FAIR after all you made.

[18.34.36] Paolo: It's not RIGHT to me.

[18.34.53] Paolo: and I'm sure Lucas will never get the signatures back to you.

[18.35.13] Paolo: So you refund me and when you REALLY have them, I pay again. THis is my best offer.

[18.35.32] Paolo: Obviously, if you refund me I go to police and guardia di finanza and take away the report.

[18.35.41] vladimir petkov: Ok

[18.35.50] Paolo: come on, show me some RESPECT. show me you're HONEST.

[18.35.57] vladimir petkov: Ok

[18.37.09] Paolo: I ttrusted you without knowing you because Martin told me you're HONEST.

[18.37.23] Paolo: So now, send 160 euro as a gift to xxxxxxxx

[18.37.32] Paolo: and come back when you have the signatures.

[18.37.32] vladimir petkov: Give 2 days to come in touch with lucas

[18.37.43] vladimir petkov: I ask for 2 days to come in touch with lucas

[18.37.51] Paolo: I can wait until monday. But monday night I want my money. I'm bored to wait.

[18.37.54] Paolo: REALLY BORED.

[18.38.13] Paolo: if I don't have my money, I will let the police do their job. And that would be YOUR problem.

[18.38.19] vladimir petkov: Lets what i can do i will ke you informed

[18.38.20] Paolo: I'm giving you EXTRA TIME.

[18.38.34] Paolo: I give you time only until Monday

[18.38.37] vladimir petkov: Ok ok tnx

[18.38.41] vladimir petkov: Ok ok

[18.38.46] vladimir petkov: Bye

[18.38.53] Paolo: if on Monday night I don't have my money, police will finish their job.

[18.38.59] Paolo: It's up to you.

[18.39.17] vladimir petkov: Understand

[18.39.18] Paolo: P.s: police has all our conversations, and Tomorrow morning I will give them also this

[18.40.14] Paolo: Again, I'm being KIND, HONEST and PATIENT. And I'm showing some RESPECT. Up to you now.

Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on June 5, 2015 at 2:36pm

Sounds to me like you need to go to the Police. The seller is a fraud and needs to be stopped.

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