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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on September 5, 2016 at 6:40am

I would have no reason to doubt the authenticity of this signature.

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Permalink Reply by Jason Strecker on September 5, 2016 at 1:09pm

This one looks good.

BUT, he was secretarial in the early 2000s c/o Kazarian Spencer agency. Adam West, too.

Same person, I'm sure because they were sending note, drawings and letters to fans. I DOUBT either guy knew about it. Gorshin was a good ttm signer via venue and West, I'm 99% sure his Idaho ttms are real.

The real Gorshins were "bubbly" like this one while the ttm fakes had a "harder" appearance, no bubbles in the G in Gorshin.

I got his auto ttm when he charged in early 2000s and via venue when he did his Burns show. The ttms I got from Kazarian were not his handwriting. Many people were sending to him and West c/o the agency and getting fakes backs. It's sad because they were such good signers via other addresses, no one would believe they were fake. I bet it was just some office employee messing around without their knowledge!

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Permalink Reply by Greg on September 5, 2016 at 5:31pm

Thanks for the great info Jason!!
Would you be able to post an example of a real and secretarial for comparison?
Thanks again!

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Permalink Reply by Jason Strecker on September 6, 2016 at 12:33pm

I got the single signed photo before the multi signed. The first thing that made me wonder if the Riddler! inscription. All the Frank's were signed with "Riddler" and a question mark after it. Also, his personalization was almost, if not always, just "HI" before the person's name. The handwriting looked quite different than the personalized Frank's I saw on other sites.

Dick Van Patten sent me the photo without Frank's auto. I really hadn't put too much thought into secretarial at the time so I sent it to the agency. Again, the auto looked pretty different, not as fluid as Frank's actual auto. And again, Frank wasn't really doing funny inscriptions on his IPs. By this point peopled were getting funny inscriptions (Riddle me this, where is Batman...etc) on their photos. ALSO, people were getting similar notes, letters from both "West" and "Gorshin" via Kazarian, Spencer. It was definitely the same person doing this. My friend Todd (famous Todd from California), even got his photo with Frank ruined sending it ttm to K/S agency.

Again, I DOUBT either guy knew. The agency probably had their signatures on file and it was some office clerk fooling around. About a year later, I sent two photos to Frank via venue and got them personalized. It was a flowing signature, personalized simply "Hi Jason!" with his name and "Riddler" with a question mark after it. I've since sold these photos but I'm sure one can find similar on google images.

Lastly, notice the discoloration on the DVP photo! That was me trying to remove the fake autograph. Didn't work, but it was ruined to begin with by the "secretary."

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Permalink Reply by Greg on September 11, 2016 at 8:44pm

Thanks again for your reply and posted examples. I took your advice and scored the photo! I"ve seen a lot of Gorshin's as The Riddler, but not as Bele!!!

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